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bungalow 05-27-2010 09:58 PM
miracles and all

Freebase Dali 05-27-2010 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 872596)
No miracles. Everything in life occurs in the exact way it was predestined to.
That statement was so oxymoronic that it was sarcasm, even if you didn't mean it to be.
(But I do hope you did)

Neapolitan 05-28-2010 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tore (Post 866149)
.. Stuff like the existence of stars or the emergence of life are not really miracles. While surviving tough odds may be a really unlikely event, I think the emergence of life on our planet considering it's placement, size and the presence of water etc. was basically inevitable. Assuming life emerged once and then all life descended from that one event (doesn't have to be true at all), if that event hadn't happened when it did, I believe it would've happened on a later occasion anyways!
Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.

Janszoon 05-28-2010 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 872889)
Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.
I think granite is taken for granted.

RVCA 05-31-2010 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 872891)
I think granite is taken for granted.
:laughing: You rock.

Freebase Dali 05-31-2010 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 872889)
Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.
Wood you consider your beleaf in miracles to not extend into supernatural occurrences, or is that a tuff question to answer?

Harry 06-04-2010 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 872617)
That statement was so oxymoronic that it was sarcasm, even if you didn't mean it to be.
(But I do hope you did)
How's that? You realise that miracle and predestination are two entirely separate entities, aye?
There are no miracles cos a miracle would infer that something out of the ordinary that 'wasn't supposed to happen' did (i.e. mum had a brain aneurysm and miraculously recovered from a half dead state). But in terms of predestination, miracles don't exist cos what was supposed to happen was planned out all along. :beer:

Freebase Dali 06-05-2010 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Harry (Post 877036)
How's that? You realise that miracle and predestination are two entirely separate entities, aye?
There are no miracles cos a miracle would infer that something out of the ordinary that 'wasn't supposed to happen' did (i.e. mum had a brain aneurysm and miraculously recovered from a half dead state). But in terms of predestination, miracles don't exist cos what was supposed to happen was planned out all along. :beer:
Predestination infers an external enforcer.
Supernatural miracles do too. Funny...

But either way, you're assuming that what may have miraculously happened wasn't "meant to be". How do you know that wasn't what was actually meant to be?
I think all of it is utter cunt juice, but go ahead with what you will.

Anteater 06-05-2010 08:55 AM
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Harry 06-05-2010 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 877076)
Predestination infers an external enforcer.
Supernatural miracles do too. Funny...

But either way, you're assuming that what may have miraculously happened wasn't "meant to be". How do you know that wasn't what was actually meant to be?
I think all of it is utter cunt juice, but go ahead with what you will.
If it was 'meant to be' then it wasn't 'miraculous' ;)
And I am not inferring any external enforcer. I didn't say GOD MADE EVERYTHING FOR A REASON ,that ain't wot I'm saying at all... cos I certainly do not believe that. Predestination as in lack of free will. You're watching life like a film, while you think you're making choices but in 'reality' the choice is already made and the future already ahead of you.


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