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Exo 08-18-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1988363)
Why do you care if others aren't vaccinated? As long as you are, you're still "safe," right? [/SARCASM]

I'm sorry if this was covered in earlier discussion but one example is that infants are very susceptible to whooping cough but can't accept the vaccine until they're older. Older kids who get whooping cough can fight it off pretty well. Infants can't. Those kids who spread their whooping cough wouldn't if they were vaccinated for it.

This isn't supposed to be a "checkmate" type response because that'll only breed more denial and arguments but it's one example. Here's a nice video of a baby with whooping cough to help...


[MERIT] 08-18-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1988668)
infants are very susceptible to whooping cough but can't accept the vaccine until they're older. Older kids who get whooping cough can fight it off pretty well. Infants can't. Those kids who spread their whooping cough wouldn't if they were vaccinated for it.

I see where you're coming from. That is a valid concern. But people who have been vaccinated against an illness can still be susceptible to getting and spreading it. Vaccines do not guarantee immunity.

I'm not against vaccine theory, just against the dangerous ingredients/adjuvants in some vaccines, such as aluminum, mercury/thimerisol/ethylmercury/methylmercury, formaldehyde, etc. As well as those that I object to on a philosophical level, like aborted human fetal tissue [though replacing human issue with animal tissue to create "ethical" versions doesn't seem safe to me either].

There are safe ways to vaccinate that don't include dangerous ingredients [besides the virus itself]. Creating vaccines with dangerous adjuvants is irresponsible and unnecessary. Small doses of viruses have been used to create responses in the immune system and foment immunity for centuries, without the use of dangerous adjuvants.

Dude111 08-19-2018 03:05 AM

And people who let themselves be infected with a vaccine CAN SPREAD IT ALSO!!!!!

The FLU in my opinion gets spread MUCH MORE thru vaccine use than it does thru the air!!

YES, the Flu Shot Will Make You Spread the Flu… Fact checking TIME Mag – The Wild Doc

OccultHawk 08-19-2018 03:25 AM

This is why I say just use force and vaccinate everyone

No amount reasoning works

https://www.marchofdimes.org/glue/im...in_polio_4.png

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/meas...?cb=1306275611

https://carrington.edu/wp-content/up...ox-770x392.png

http://exhibits.hsl.virginia.edu/his...entucky_TB.jpg

Two choices:

A) Get vaccinated
B) Get vaccinated

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1988710)
This is why I say just use force and vaccinate everyone

Governments using force against their citizens always works out well for all parties involved [/sarcasm]

Effective vaccines CAN be created WITHOUT mercury and aluminum and formaldehyde. To do otherwise is just irresponsible and hinders the validity of vaccination, because it creates unnecessary problems! Just make a clean vaccine! Say it with me!

Clean Vaccine!

CLEAN VACCINE!

CLEAN VACCINE!

CLEAN VACCINE!

CLEAN VACCINE!

CLEAN VACCINE!

OccultHawk 08-19-2018 03:50 AM

Merit

You don’t know ****ing **** about medicine

**** your opinion

I don’t either but that’s why I turn to the consensus of the medical community

Not conspiracy theorist nut jobs

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1988714)
Merit

You don’t know ****ing **** about medicine

**** your opinion

I don’t either but that’s why I turn to the consensus of the medical community

Not conspiracy theorist nut jobs

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ch6IF908pDP5C/giphy.gif

Enjoy your Kool-Aid

OccultHawk 08-19-2018 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1988717)

You don’t know how this works either

https://wamfitandwell.files.wordpres...06/vaccine.jpg

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1988719)
You don’t know how this works either

https://wamfitandwell.files.wordpres...06/vaccine.jpg

Why don't you fill it with some Windex and give us a demonstration then.

DwnWthVwls 08-19-2018 04:35 AM

OH isn't wrong. IF those chemicals are necessary for the vaccine than it shouldn't matter. Obviously, if they are unnecessary we should be demanding they are taken out, but that is a separate issue from if you should or shouldn't get vaccinated.

Did you watch the "10 Americans" video I posted?


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