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Paedantic Basterd 11-05-2010 04:42 PM

Children aren't supposed to have choices. That's why they have parents. Unfortunately, not every pair of parents is capable of making good decisions for their children. McDonalds should start sterilizing the population through its food instead. I agree with you, Urban.

LoathsomePete 11-05-2010 04:46 PM

Apparently in BC they tried to ban that KFC bacon and cheese sandwich with chicken instead of bread monstrosity, but after a legal battle it's now up there. I definitely agree that it's a total breech on civil rights to fill my body with disgusting, but legal substances, but at the same time... there's a lot of obese people in this country and it starts somewhere. I'm pretty torn on the issue, I mean sometimes I find the whole "eat healthy" campaign that has hit the elementary schools and after school cartoons to be kind of in vain because after 9 when the kids go to bed shows like Man vs. Food come on the Food Network and now we're celebrating gluttony. Seems a little hypocritical to me, but no more hypocritical than me going out to Micky D's in a moment to grab a late lunch/early dinner. I don't know what the answer is.

I'm also guilty of assuming that San Francisco put a ban on sodomy after reading the thread title.

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Urban Hat€monger ? 11-05-2010 04:50 PM

Is it really a civil rights thing though.

Nobody is saying you can't buy junk food, nobody is saying you can't buy toys. all they're saying is that you can't use toys to sell junk food to kids. that seems pretty reasonable to me.

Freebase Dali 11-05-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian (Post 952839)
Children aren't supposed to have choices. That's why they have parents. Unfortunately, not every pair of parents is capable of making good decisions for their children. McDonalds should start sterilizing the population through its food instead. I agree with you, Urban.

I think children should have choices, but they should be guided. I agree that a parent feeding their kid McDonald's enough for the kid to become obese is ridiculously bad parenting. While I don't see anything wrong with an occasional burger on the run or what have you, I really don't think a solid plan for combating obesity is going to be taking away one bad choice from an already bad parent. Educating parents would be a better idea... but most of all, providing other healthier options that don't cost an arm and a leg that can meet the needs of parents who may just not have any other viable options.

That's the sad thing... healthy food literally does cost a lot more than non healthy food, because of the way it's mass produced and marketed. If the government wants less fat kids, then they need to help provide more affordable and convenient healthier options for parents to choose from instead of limiting them.

LoathsomePete 11-05-2010 04:51 PM

I may have misinterpreted the meaning of the article by the fact that I didn't bother to read it.

Paedantic Basterd 11-05-2010 04:52 PM

Man V Food actually turns me off of a lot of food.

I think that there's some responsibility on the parts of both companies and consumers to keep a healthy lifestyle. We might be lazy gluttons, but it's not like corporations don't have people researching how to get us to consume and become addicted to grease and sugar.

Freebase Dali 11-05-2010 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 952842)
Is it really a civil rights thing though.

Nobody is saying you can't buy junk food, nobody is saying you can't buy toys. all they're saying is that you can't use toys to sell junk food to kids. that seems pretty reasonable to me.

It seems reasonable, but it also seems pretty inconsequential. The kids are still going to be eating junk... they just won't have a toy to go along with it.
Consider the entire circumstance for frequenting a fast food joint enough to contribute to childhood obesity in the first place. I don't think it has much to do with an addiction to McDonald's toys.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-05-2010 04:56 PM

Despite my San Fransico joke, I don't mind this ban at all. I'm not up in arms about our freedom and rights and blah blah blah. Like Freebase has said, it doesn't matter in the slightest because parent's who eat at McDonalds are just going to get their kid's something they'll eat at McDonalds.

Acutally, I think any one who eats at McDonalds should be a legal adult and have to sign a waver first.

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-05-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 952843)

That's the sad thing... healthy food literally does cost a lot more than non healthy food, because of the way it's mass produced and marketed. If the government wants less fat kids, then they need to help provide more affordable and convenient options for parents to choose from instead of limiting them.

I've always wondered why people say this. I grew up in a house that didn't have a lot of money and I can count on one hand the number of times I ate in fast food places because my mother used to always say that they weren't good for you and a waste of money.

I think it's more about food management than money. It's about knowing about the food you eat & how to make the most of it for as little price as possible.

I could easily make healthy meals every day for what it would cost to eat at mcdonalds for a whole week.

Paedantic Basterd 11-05-2010 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 952843)
That's the sad thing... healthy food literally does cost a lot more than non healthy food, because of the way it's mass produced and marketed. If the government wants less fat kids, then they need to help provide more affordable and convenient healthier options for parents to choose from instead of limiting them.

In terms of eating out, for sure, but cooking meals at home is both healthier and more affordable than eating out anywhere is. Too many parents these days lack the motivation and energy to cook a meal for their families 7 days a week. Not saying it's unbelievable; so many families have two working parents, often with multiple jobs.

I do have friends who grew up eating out, and unfortunately as adults, they make easy decisions for food that aren't especially healthy or cost effective, and lack the skills to budget and prepare food themselves.


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