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The Abracadaver 11-18-2010 12:47 AM
CERN has trapped antimatter
 
I never thought somethin like this would happen in my lifetime, but apparently CERN has managed to capture antihydrogen

Antihydrogen trapped at long last - physics-math - 17 November 2010 - New Scientist

this is a pretty big deal, science can make strides with this. Apparently it interects differently than normal hydrogen, in ways physics can't explain. This is amazing

RVCA 11-18-2010 12:53 AM
This is exciting, I'm excited.

Chainsawkitten 11-18-2010 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Abracadaver (Post 957954)
Apparently it interects differently than normal hydrogen, in ways physics can't explain.
At least according to the linked case, we don't know that (yet). That's what they're going to test. They haven't done so yet, though.

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Originally Posted by newscientist
The achievement means researchers can now test whether anti-atoms obey the same physical laws as regular atoms. For example, matter and antimatter should absorb and emit light at the same wavelengths, according to the standard model of particle physics.

rondo 11-18-2010 03:34 AM
Sounds very exciting, but I can't imagine yet on the implications of this feat (practically as well as explaining the big picture). If particle physics and quantum mechanics in particular hasn't surprised you yet, well, this might be a step in the right direction. Eventually, we might just end up with smoke and mirrors.

Scarlett O'Hara 11-18-2010 06:31 AM
I read about this today, I am pumped if it's validated as such!!

Insane Guest 11-18-2010 07:57 AM
Weird, I'm reading about this ina book called "Angels and Demons". I thought it was all fake, apparently not.

Dirty 11-18-2010 08:30 AM
So...what does this really mean?

Insane Guest 11-18-2010 08:32 AM
I don't know. Just that, well, it has the word anti before it so it should be a big deal.

The Abracadaver 11-18-2010 09:57 AM
I give them four or five years before they come up with an antimatter bomb.

right-track 11-18-2010 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958002)
So...what does this really mean?
Every particle in the universe has an antiparticle, a bit like a mirror image that acts exactly the same, but with a reverse charge. When the two meet, they convert themselves into pure energy.
This means that there's now a possibility to develop an engine that can propel future spacecraft through space making the Space Shuttle's current engine look like an outboard motor!
There's also talk of blasting cancer cells using antiprotons.

Connair 11-18-2010 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 958023)
Every particle in the universe has an antiparticle, a bit like a mirror image that acts exactly the same, but with a reverse charge. When the two meet, they convert themselves into pure energy.
This means that there's now a possibility to develop an engine that can propel future spacecraft through space making the Space Shuttle's current engine look like an outboard motor!
There's also talk of blasting cancer cells using antiprotons.
Man I had never heard about this stuff. This sounds extremely interesting. Im curious to see what it turns up.

right-track 11-18-2010 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Connair (Post 958030)
Man I had never heard about this stuff. This sounds extremely interesting. Im curious to see what it turns up.
I've got my fingers crossed for an invisibility cloak.

Farfisa 11-18-2010 11:53 AM
This sounds amazing, so what would happen if you were to breath enough of this in? Would it be harmful? I have my hopes set on some anti-matter drain cleaner.

right-track 11-18-2010 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 958040)
This sounds amazing, so what would happen if you were to breath enough of this in? Would it be harmful? I have my hopes set on some anti-matter drain cleaner.
It would probably have a similar effect to drinking your current drain cleaner.
I seriously wouldn't consider it, as it has the potential to ruin your day.

MoonlitSunshine 11-18-2010 01:31 PM
chances are that unless you inhaled it directly from a vacuum-sealed container you wouldn't inhale any anyway, considering the relatively large amount of hydrogen in the atmosphere.

Dayvan Cowboy 11-18-2010 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 958023)
Every particle in the universe has an antiparticle, a bit like a mirror image that acts exactly the same, but with a reverse charge. When the two meet, they convert themselves into pure energy.
This means that there's now a possibility to develop an engine that can propel future spacecraft through space making the Space Shuttle's current engine look like an outboard motor!
There's also talk of blasting cancer cells using antiprotons.
...but it's also the most expensive stuff in the world. According to wikipedia:
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Many experts, however, dispute these claims as being far too optimistic by many orders of magnitude. They point out that in 2004, the annual production of antiprotons at CERN was several picograms at a cost of $20 million. This means to produce 1 gram of antimatter, CERN would need to spend 100 quadrillion dollars and run the antimatter factory for 100 billion years.
and one researcher even said:
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If we could assemble all of the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes
so personally I don't think antimatter will live up to it's hype. Also, I heard that it is terribly difficult to contain and that if it touches anything material, it's going to go boom. Also, what ever happened to that LHC thing? I haven't heard about it in a while. Did it ever resume working or did it break down again? I did a crazy amount of research on the LHC when I was grade six and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

duga 11-18-2010 02:53 PM
And computers that have less functionality than a pocket calculator used to fill entire buildings.

right-track 11-18-2010 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayvan Cowboy (Post 958076)
...but it's also the most expensive stuff in the world. According to wikipedia:


and one researcher even said:


so personally I don't think antimatter will live up to it's hype. Also, I heard that it is terribly difficult to contain and that if it touches anything material, it's going to go boom. Also, what ever happened to that LHC thing? I haven't heard about it in a while. Did it ever resume working or did it break down again? I did a crazy amount of research on the LHC when I was grade six and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Correct.

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 958092)
And computers that have less functionality than a pocket calculator used to fill entire buildings.
And correct.

The fact that scientists have trapped antimatter in a universe consisting almost entirely of matter is an incredible achievement, considering antimatter was only discovered to exist within living memory.
Who knows where all this could lead to in the next hundred years?

Connair 11-19-2010 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 958039)
I've got my fingers crossed for an invisibility cloak.
All in good time.

MoonlitSunshine 11-20-2010 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Connair (Post 958373)
All in good time.
According to other threads, he only has till april to discover how to make his entire house invisible :P

khfreek 11-20-2010 02:36 PM
haha you took my old av Abra!

Anywho, it sounds like antimatter will take years and years before it can be applied to anything. So I'm not excited for the moment.

Janszoon 11-20-2010 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by khfreek (Post 958804)
Anywho, it sounds like antimatter will take years and years before it can be applied to anything. So I'm not excited for the moment.
Would it be safe to say that you're anti-excited?

khfreek 11-20-2010 05:16 PM
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More apathetic really

Freebase Dali 11-20-2010 05:48 PM
Figures...
I don't know why, but I get the feeling people are thinking:

"Uh, unless this advancement is ready to improve my A) cellphone abilities, B) Facebook apps, C) internets, or D) give me super powers, then you ain't discovered shit."

I'm just bullshitting and all, but it's scary to know that there really are people out there who only see scientific progress in the form of a product, and not the knowledge itself and what it means for other scientific endeavors.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-20-2010 09:06 PM
Can this stuff make sex robots?

Janszoon 11-20-2010 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 959002)
Can this stuff make sex robots?
No, just anti-sex robots.

Scarlett O'Hara 11-20-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 959002)
Can this stuff make sex robots?
http://xad.xanga.com/aa9c72770103120...b157915011.jpg

someonecompletelyrandom 11-20-2010 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 959004)
No, just anti-sex robots.
If I wanted a wife I'd propose to my girlfriend.

Dotoar 12-27-2010 06:40 PM
They have finally created something that doesn't matter!

RVCA 12-28-2010 12:19 AM
this third page is full of anti-lol

someonecompletelyrandom 12-28-2010 12:23 AM
I still think my wife joke is underrated around here.

Dotoar 12-28-2010 10:32 AM
What matters here is the matter of matter and anti-matter colliding, which is a serious matter as a matter of fact. You shouldn't joke around with this matter.


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