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Sljslj 11-18-2010 08:52 PM

Send seniors on one-way trip to Mars?
 
I really don't know what to think of this....

Send 60-year-old astronauts to Mars on one-way trip to save money say scientists | Mail Online

Dirty 11-18-2010 09:02 PM

I dont support space travel to be honest. I think it's a waste of billions of dollars more than anything. We landed on the moon decades ago and I don't really see the benefit to be honest.

BUT, if they are going to explore Mars, then I think this is a good idea. Obviously the people going to Mars would know they aren't coming back and that their lives will end on Mars, away from their families. But if that is something they are comfortable with, then so be it.

Like I said though, I don't really understand why we are even exploring Mars anyways. I don't think starting human colonies on another planet is going to work.

Sljslj 11-18-2010 09:55 PM

But maybe we should still try to colonize. We're running out of time on Earth and if there's even a small chance that Mars could be made inhabitable, it's definitely worth it.

Dirty 11-18-2010 10:13 PM

We don't know exactly how much time is on Earth, but I'm actually pretty content with jst letting things run its course.. and when humanity is gone, then it's gone. Who knows when that will be or how it will happen, but the idea of colonizing another planet just seems so far-fetched for me. Is it really that plausible? To eventually send like millions of people to Mars? It would take unbelievably long to set up a society on another planet, and I feel like it's just a ton of money spent on something that isn't realistic.

RVCA 11-18-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958255)
We don't know exactly how much time is on Earth, but I'm actually pretty content with jst letting things run its course.. and when humanity is gone, then it's gone.

I'm sure your kids will appreciate that sentiment, and their kids too, and their kids too...

Dirty 11-18-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RVCA (Post 958256)
I'm sure your kids will appreciate that sentiment, and their kids too, and their kids too...

*shrug*

I'm just not concerned with it. Doesn't matter when the world ends, there's gonna be billions of people wiped out when human life ceases to exist on Earth anyways. I'd rather use those billions of dollars on nearly anything else than a space program which hasn't produced benefits for the amount of money being spent.

Eventually I think humanity is going to come to an end. Not really worrying about my great, great, great, great, great granchildren who are hundreds of years away from being born.

TheCunningStunt 11-18-2010 10:36 PM

If humanity is going to come to an end, why not use millions of dollars? Money won't matter when/if we're all wiped out.

Dirty 11-18-2010 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 958260)
If humanity is going to come to an end, why not use millions of dollars? Money won't matter when/if we're all wiped out.

Because that money could be used to better the lives of people right now, instead of being wasted on the space system...

TheCunningStunt 11-18-2010 10:44 PM

What could we spend THAT much money on to make our lives better? We're born, we get educated, we get a job, procrastinate a little and then die.

What could we use excessive amounts of money on right now to make our lives better?

Dirty 11-18-2010 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt (Post 958262)
What could we spend THAT much money on to make our lives better? We're born, we get educated, we get a job, procrastinate a little and then die.

What could we use excessive amounts of money on right now to make our lives better?

Tons of things. Put more money into schools, programs for kids, more money towards hospitals... Pretty much anything would be better than just completely wasting it with the space program. Do we have anything of great value to show for the billions of dollars spent?

chiron 11-18-2010 10:51 PM

Well, they could make Red 2 in Mars then.

rondo 11-19-2010 12:20 AM

What does exploring mars have to do with humanity ending? Yes, manned explorations are a lot more expensive than sending drones & robots out there, but such experiments are necessary in order to understand our solar system and the universe beyond. Observations from earth via telescopes/satellites just don't cut it.

I would say, in a decade or so, when the technology is more feasible & affordable, such an undertaking would be possible. Till then, the likes of spirit & opportunity (and other such robots) are doing a great job! If money is usually the problem, there's always billions spent on developing a new bomb or armored vehicle every year you know...just sayin'.

Dirty 11-19-2010 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rondo (Post 958283)
What does exploring mars have to do with humanity ending? Yes, manned explorations are a lot more expensive than sending drones & robots out there, but such experiments are necessary in order to understand our solar system and the universe beyond. Observations from earth via telescopes/satellites just don't cut it.

I would say, in a decade or so, when the technology is more feasible & affordable, such an undertaking would be possible. Till then, the likes of spirit & opportunity (and other robots) are doing a great job! If money is usually the problem, there's always billions spent on developing a new bomb or armored vehicle every year you know...just sayin'.


They are exploring Mars so we can colonize it in the event of a huge Earth catastrophe.

It's going to take at least 20 years to even have one of these one-way trips happen

rondo 11-19-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958287)
They are exploring Mars so we can colonize it in the event of a huge Earth catastrophe.

Umm, well, like? :confused:

Dirty 11-19-2010 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rondo (Post 958296)
Umm, well, like? :confused:

Hell if I know... Maybe something hitting the Earth? Or maybe a catastrophic earthquake or something? Not sure exactly, but that is why that the reason we are trying to send people to Mars

rondo 11-19-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958297)
Hell if I know... Maybe something hitting the Earth? Or maybe a catastrophic earthquake or something? Not sure exactly, but that is why that the reason we are trying to send people to Mars

Damn, I never read that part at the end of the article. If this is truly the motivation behind, then its just disgusting. Space exploration/Colonization should be more out of fascination than desperation. My excitement was more due to research opportunities and the amount of data that could be communicated back. Even the discovery of micro-bacterial organisms would be huge. Also, the fact that its usually a good idea for a number of nations to get involved in such a big project in and of itself would be a unifying factor.

Dom 11-20-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958297)
Hell if I know... Maybe something hitting the Earth? Or maybe a catastrophic earthquake or something? Not sure exactly, but that is why that the reason we are trying to send people to Mars

We want to explore and understand the universe because it is in human nature to be curious and to want to understand. Not to mention increasing the longevity of the human race. A mass extinction will hit Earth eventually, and if we haven't spread to other planets and eventually other solar systems, etc. we will be wiped out. But personally, I think curiosity is the main thing. What's the point of existing if we do not at least try to fulfill our nature for discovery?

Urban Hat€monger ? 11-20-2010 06:01 AM

There's a sitcom in this somewhere.

MoonlitSunshine 11-20-2010 06:32 AM

"I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out O... Ah, ****"

On a more serious note, knowing scientists the "IN CASE OF A MAJOR CATASTROPHE" bit is probably less the actual reasining for it, and more that if they have a reason other than "cause we're pretty damn curious" they're much more likely to get private sector backing. Never underestimate the paranoia of a multi-billionaire!

As for the "Billions could be spent on other things" argument: the billions already exist in the world, and they're not being spent. What makes you think that if they don't spend it on this, that they'll actually spend it on something that will benefit the rest of the world? People are selfish, rich people, doubly so (kinda have to be to get that way) I don't blame them for it, but it's a fact of life that the vast majority of them aren't going to fork out money if they don't stand to profit from it. If Space Exploration works, and a new colony is set up, investors stand to profit majorly from it, so it's possible to get private sector backing. If you can convince the richest people in the world that they stand to gain from increasing the standard of living of the world in general, then be my guest.

On a scientific note, part of me would actually be interested in living on Mars, especially if i'd already lived a full life on Earth. We have no idea how long we're going to live, in fact there are theories that the rate at which we are learning to extend life is fast outgrowing the average lifespan of a human being in a 1st world country. If it increases at this rate, many of us may live to be 200/300, if not indefinitely old. Would you not get bored, after a while? Starting a colony on mars would be difficult, it'd probably be rough for a fair bit, but it would be challenging, and if you were with people who you got along with and worked well with, I personally don't think it'd be that bad. So long as nothing like "The Waters of Mars" happens.... *shudder*

TheBig3 11-20-2010 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty (Post 958261)
Because that money could be used to better the lives of people right now, instead of being wasted on the space system...

What if making peoples lives can be done by putting them on Mars?



We choose to go to the moon & the other things. Thats Mars, bro. Stop hating on Kennedy.

someonecompletelyrandom 11-20-2010 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 958671)
There's a sitcom in this somewhere.

http://www.kevinswelsen.nl/wp-conten...7/12/urkel.jpg
Hey there, everybody!

:clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::clap:

CanwllCorfe 11-21-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 958761)
http://www.kevinswelsen.nl/wp-conten...7/12/urkel.jpg
Hey there, everybody!

:clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::clap:

Hey Dr. Nick!

Connair 11-23-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 959447)
Hey Dr. Nick!

"The kneebone's connected to the... something. The something's connected to the... red thing. The red thing's connected to my wrist watch... Uh oh."

crash_override 11-23-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 958671)
There's a sitcom in this somewhere.

The Bucket List 2: Out of This World

Sljslj 11-26-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crash_override (Post 959974)
The Bucket List 2: Out of This World

:clap: :yeah:

LoathsomePete 11-26-2010 11:40 PM

Am I the only one who on first thought after reading the thread title thought "Huh... this seems like an awfully expensive way to euthanize the elderly." Then after reading the article I thought "A planet inhabited by the elderly... not exactly going to be a popular holiday destination."

On a more serious note I do believe that space exploration will be necessary for our survival as a species in the next couple hundred years. At the rate we're going, Earth will be uninhabitable and we will have to start colonizing other places, but I mean I also look at it as the next logical step forward in our evolution as a species. We started in Africa, migrated North, then moved over to Asia, then back to Africa, then into Europe, then we set sail for the New World and Australia/ New Guinea, exploring off world planets would just be a more grand version of what the Vikings did a couple hundred years before that other guy. Hell if we could create the technology to terraform a planet into something habitable like Earth there is no telling how far our species could advance.


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