You have a limited understanding of the word right.

it's cool, i know how eager you are to correct me, you just can't help yourself. wait a little longer though next time. if you just give me some time i'm sure i would've actually said some ignorant **** regarding islam and then you could really let me have it. which arab country did you live in btw?

You a nosey motha****a.

Morocco. Nosey. But still your understanding of Islam is rudimentary at best.

Stop. Read my quote again, for the third time.

"Sexuality is related to morality in the same way that every other physical action is."

Sex is a just physical action, inherently as "good" or "evil" as any other physical action someone can take. Like all actions, when taken to extremes, it can be used to hurt the people around you (rape, torture, etc.), but that is less about sexual preference and more about a psychological need for dominance that would have existed whether or not the avenue of sex had manifested itself to them (think of the people whose need for dominance causes them to shoot-up, or put explosives in, public places).

People who like rough sex and BDSM can be compared to hunting enthusiasts; they like to inflict pain and they like to play with toys, but in the end they're just as likely to hurt or kill another human as anyone else. In fact, hunters are usually less likely to shoot someone than any other type of gun owner, being more respectful of their tools and mindful of the damage they can do.

Honestly it's apallling that we need to even discuss these things in 2015.

But it's obvious that you do care. You keep calling them "trashy", "sleazy" and "sluts", saying that their sexual preferences reveal the integrity of their character. If that's true for women, than wouldn't it be the same for men? And yet you've already said that you couldn't care less about what a guy does in his sex life.

This double-standard is the entire point of this thread. Why are sexually active women referred to as "sluts", while sexually active guys are just called "guys"?

Good lord.

There is no double standard, the insult aimed at men is based on how little sex they get, not how plentiful.

Which is why the insult 'Basement dwelling virgin' is aimed at men rather than women.

The sexual intellectual has spoken. The debate has been resolved.

/thread

Women get judged by other women just as often as men get judged by other men. Both genders are ridiculed for not being "exciting" enough, or being too "innocent". Yet only women are regularly called out for having what others consider to be "too much" sex.

But let's change the discussion, so we're not just going back and forth. Why do you think it is that men pressure other men to have a certain amount of sex? Does it really matter all that much? My guess is that it's because sex is such a powerful motivator, and it's ingrained into our bodies and minds. It is, after all, our species' way of reproducing, and our bodies really want us to remember that. So when someone feels the need to judge someone, sex is an easy way to measure their social success.

^ You left weight, and looks.Those are way easier to insult.You have to have some kinda connection to the person you are calling a slut.

Idk if I agree with that entirely. People(mostly other women) judge a woman's sluttyness based on their appearance all the time.

I also hear WAY TOO MANY people justifying treating women who act a certain way or dress in revealing clothing a certain way because "they want the attention". I worked with a woman at the Gap who was very outgoing and talked about sex a lot. One day one of the guys that worked there grabbed her ass. Half the women in the store blamed her for his actions just because of the way she spoke. That's not okay.

lol i'm just jealous you've seen more of the world than me. but still your understanding of what i know about islam is a blind guess at best.

Haters gone hate.

/jennyjones

/drphil

Wait what?

This thread is still a thing?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???

Well, to some extent, male promiscuity has an obvious evolutionary pressure on it: a man can impregnate several women in a short time, but a woman can only get pregnant about once every year or so (there's a refractory period post birth). So this gives males a great advantage in spreading offspring - as long as the male can manage to mate.

In flies, there's evidence that female promiscuity can increase the quality of offspring:

Revisiting telegony: offspring inherit an acquired characteristic of their mother's previous mate - Crean - 2014 - Ecology Letters - Wiley Online Library

But it's hard to know to what extent social factors override biological drives, and anyway, regardless of evolution, any person should be able to engage in polyamory and open sexuality as long as consent is present.

So who's dtf itt right now

That's the real debate

me

Down to ****...in the taint?

Is there a hole someone's not telling me about?

Taint really sure.

I gooch what you did there.

Stop being such immature boobs.

Don't fleshy fun bridge on our parade.

I'm often called the sluttiest guy people know, and I take that as a compliment. Slutty people are funny a lot of the time, and a gag to hang around.

That's a surprise, actually.

it seems like the progressive/feminist approach to this kind of thing is to get rid of the dirty words like slut. they seem to think once you neutralize/castrate the language you solve the problem

that approach can never work, imo. it's basically just trying to be the thought police without having the authority to enforce any of your laws.

i think of this when i read this thread because it reminds me of an encounter i had with a coworker a little while back. basically she was explaining her sexual exploits and whatnot and then she said something about how even when she was in kindergarten she had 2 boyfriends and i said something along the lines of damn so you've basically been a whore since day 1. and she got offended and gave me the usual spiel about how it shouldn't be considered a whore cause blah blah blah sexuality is healthy etc. i didn't even mean it in a really negative way. it was sort of a joke that just so happened to be true. it's like you want to remove the stigma by removing the dirty word. the word is just an expression of the stigma, not the cause of it.

a more pragmatic approach is to either disregard the significance of the term or to wear the slut label as a badge of honor imo

Well they kind of do when they talk about slut shaming don't they? The term implies that it's ok to be a slut, but not ok to shame.

i guess but then if you call them a slut they get offended and label it shaming so it doesn't really seem to work that well.

I think it depends on your tone and context, really. Some girls liked to be called sluts in the middle of sex.

yea i know and some girls don't mind being called sluts when they're not in bed too. that's what i'm saying though. those are the sluts that are actually progressing. women need to learn to not give a **** like men do if we're really supposed to treat each other as equals.

I think men also need to not call women sluts in anger or as a pejorative. Basically, we shouldn't shame sluts.

Agreed, but I'd like it to be sort of a tongue-in-cheek thing. Nothing as boring as a straight-laced person, and a slut who's a slut because she is sexually liberated, rather than just trying to gain male attention due to low self-esteem, is probably going to be far more interesting---and fun in general---than a woman who is sexually repressed.

The thing that bothers me about "sluts" in this day and age is that many women who are called sluts probably do fit the negative stereotype. When "societal law" dictates that the only women who are sexually active to a certain degree are somehow defective, many well-adjusted women with a strong sense of self---who might otherwise be into non-self-destructive promiscuity---probably hold themselves back; which creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where the only women who do engage in promiscuity are likely those who lack self-respect, which makes willing to engage in acts that they may very well see as degrading, but simply don't have the willpower or self-awareness to see what they're doing to themselves.

In my experience, "sluts" unfortunately often do fit that stereotype. I imagine the same is even more true for porn stars. There should be nothing inherently wrong with sex work. I'm sure it can often be a fulfilling career, depending on the nature of your job and with whom/why you're engaging in it. I mean, plenty of people whore themselves out in "normal" degrading jobs---cubicle work, customer service, etc---so even legitimately degrading porn could have the same, unpleasant, though relatively benign nature as that kind of work, so long as societal stigmas change.

I don't think it's necessarily wrong to sleep with lots of people wheb you're single. Do whatever you enoy, it's not my business and it's just sex.

Besides,If girls wouldn't be slut shamed, than horny dudes would get more sex. A slut is still a slut though. Just saying there isn't inherintly anything wrong with being a slut, male or female.