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Buzzov*en 07-07-2011 02:08 PM
Life is what we make of it, but life has no purpose. Yes we may have many different experiences, but at the end of the day that means nothing since we all die.

Guybrush 07-09-2011 03:57 AM
Life may have no ultimate purpose - it's a consequence of the way things are; order established from chaos through an ongoing evolution. But that doesn't mean we don't have a certain purpose. We get hungry and thirsty, so obviously we are "supposed" to eat and drink. We hurt and can get cold, so obviously we are "supposed" to stay away from injuring ourselves and exposing ourselves to harmful environments. We get horny, so we are "supposed" to have sex.

We're slaves to these things and so, even if one might say life is a consequence and has no ultimate agenda of it's own, you could still argue that we have a purpose .. I think!

djchameleon 07-09-2011 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1082523)
Life may have no ultimate purpose - it's a consequence of the way things are; order established from chaos through an ongoing evolution. But that doesn't mean we don't have a certain purpose. We get hungry and thirsty, so obviously we are "supposed" to eat and drink. We hurt and can get cold, so obviously we are "supposed" to stay away from injuring ourselves and exposing ourselves to harmful environments. We get horny, so we were "supposed" to have sex.

We're slaves to these things and so, even if one might say life is a consequence and has no ultimate agenda of it's own, you could still argue that we have a purpose .. I think!
We do have a basic purpose to sustain ourselves and also to survive unless the individual has given up and doesn't care about surviving anymore.

Howard the Duck 07-09-2011 05:13 AM
Life is the inverse of death

Guybrush 07-09-2011 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1082533)
We do have a basic purpose to sustain ourselves and also to survive
The trick, I think, is understanding and coming to terms with exactly why this is so.

djchameleon 07-09-2011 06:14 AM
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The trick, I think, is understanding and coming to terms with exactly why this is so.
that's the thing, I don't get why it's so hard for people to just accept that's the way things are instead of trying to understand why it's happening.

Guybrush 07-09-2011 07:06 AM
I think science has got the why pretty much covered (that is, roughly why we evolve and why we've developed behaviours and "purposes" like those described above), but people generally don't try to understand it. As a biologist, I feel the why is pretty much covered, it's just the details of exactly how it happened which are hard to figure out.

The Batlord 07-11-2011 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1082545)
that's the thing, I don't get why it's so hard for people to just accept that's the way things are instead of trying to understand why it's happening.
Because I can't. I can't help but sit around and contemplate my existence. It's just sort of a compulsion. I could give you reasons why we should be curious about it, but I think people that do question existence would do it regardless of whether or not they could come up with a reason.

[MERIT] 07-11-2011 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1083348)
Because I can't. I can't help but sit around and contemplate my existence. It's just sort of a compulsion. I could give you reasons why we should be curious about it, but I think people that do question existence would do it regardless of whether or not they could come up with a reason.
I agree. It's hard not to contemplate and question your place in the universe and your reason for living, seeing as how none of us asked to nor wanted to be born, it was forced upon us.

Guybrush 07-11-2011 04:45 PM
More people should read the Selfish Gene :p:


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