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Originally Posted by SIRIUSB
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Ironically, drugs don't 'add' anything to the mind, but rather allow for certain neurochemical releases to take place, in other words It is already inside of us, we just have to release the experience.
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Well the question might turn to "What are we, what is our mind, and where are we... What is reality?" or such. I mean, they say our five senses only account for but a percent (or was it 10%) of what reality is. We can not begin to comprehend. What hallucinogens like DMT, LSD, mushrooms, and salvia seem to do, amongst other things, is enable us to see more of reality than we typically can. That's the way it appears, but it's really what you say. The chemicals. What did Bill Hicks say
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"Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration – that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're the imagination of ourselves."
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That quote has always stood with me since I was a teenager and heard it in a Tool song, sampled at the beginning of Third Eye I believe and that's pretty much what I found taking these kinds of things. Whether that's because that's what I wanted to see so that's what I saw or whether that's the way it is is not debatable, but I feel right about it.
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Originally Posted by Conan
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Wow, thanks for that experience mr. dave! That's really interesting, as I've previously heard that viewing your body or looking back on it once you "leave" it, in whatever sense that implies, will rip you out of your experience. Seems this happened to you. I'll have to remember not to do that if I ever manage to have one, which given my current progress, doesn't seem as unlikely as it did just this morning. I've only really started meditating recently and I've been really impressed with the benefits (both practical like relaxation and experimental like astral projection.)
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When I spotted my best friend on his salvia trip, he laid in his bed and I was sitting at the computer desk a few feet away, we had Tool going, and as it set in he drifted away from the bed, looking down upon me and him in his bed. The walls came down, and fell away and he drifted farther out until it was hard to make us out, and continued to fly off into space, landing on the planet of the Ewoks from Star Wars Return of the Jedi and watched Tool play a vivid performance of the song Pu**** for him and the Ewoks.
Point being, he was able to see himself from outside his body and it didn't break his trip.
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Originally Posted by mr dave
Either way, after a few more mornings of seeing my room before I opened my eyes I tried 'stepping out' for lack of a better term. When I woke up being able to see the room clearly (which I normally am not able to do) I choose to try getting out of bed (which kind of felt like floating upward in a pool but without the resistance of water), then I started 'walking' out of the room, and while still consciously recognizing that my body should still technically be sleeping in my bed I tried turning around. And everything broke. The clarity of my vision was replaced with a bright light but an intense feeling of dread and it took significant mental effort to wake my body after that point. I've never managed to experience something like that since.
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My (same) best friend also had this kind of experience as well, also the one Conan described with the not being able to move and starting to vibrate but he freaked out and still is a bit scared of that feeling.
He also has success in lucid dreaming. He loves to sleep because his dreams are like his personal playground/Matrix. He realizes he's dreaming often and Neo's out of there and flies around. He used to tell me the most amazing dreams. I'm envious. I don't see him fibbing about this stuff either. It's all fantasticly hard to believe, but I trust him completely.