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duga 12-31-2011 02:42 AM

I think Disney films could incorporate more material supporting being yourself and who you feel you really are inside. Still, as has been said, the actual transgendered side of things is inherently sexual in western culture. I think it would be inappropriate and quite forced to put them in these movies. Sex is never explicit in children's movies, and adding this aspect would make it quite explicit if only for the fact that it would be confusing to children...even transgendered ones.

That being said, I can still envision a time when these issues are no longer taboo in our society and we can readily put these situations and characters into films with no problems. There are cultures in the world that view transexuality and homosexuality as quite a normal aspect of life, and making a movie about it probably wouldn't be an issue for them. For us, it is still hugely taboo. I mean, we still debate gay marriage rights...and if you really step back and look at it, I'm sure we can all see how ridiculous that problem is. We are a far cry from allowing it in a children's movie. It will be incredibly gradual, but once it is no longer taboo, I think it could happen.

Janszoon 12-31-2011 05:37 AM

I don't understand why people keep saying it would be too sexual. Like Pedestrian said on the previous page "they're a boy who wants to be a girl" (or vice versa). That doesn't necessitate anything explicitly sexual at all.

Above 12-31-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1138659)
I don't understand why people keep saying it would be too sexual. Like Pedestrian said on the previous page "they're a boy who wants to be a girl" (or vice versa). That doesn't necessitate anything explicitly sexual at all.

Actually, I am a girl. I just lack the equipment. That's how me and most other trans* individuals see themselves anyway.

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1138649)
The actual transgendered side of things is inherently sexual in western culture.

No. That's a very common and damaging misconception. GENDER and SEXUALITY are two completely different things.

Goofle 12-31-2011 07:32 AM

Does anyone else reach for the violin whenever Above posts? :D

Above 12-31-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11 (Post 1138672)
Does anyone else reach for the violin whenever Above posts? :D

Excuse me?

That wasn't an emotional post. I was just pointing out some misconceptions related to transgenderism.

Goofle 12-31-2011 07:51 AM

That wasn't by your standards, but generally I brace myself for a real buzz killer.

Above 12-31-2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11 (Post 1138676)
That wasn't by your standards, but generally I brace myself for a real buzz killer.

I get why it would appear that way, but the majority of my posts ain't like that. I just post a lot in controversial topics like this, where things are bound to get heated and/or emotional. I use my personal experiences to back up my arguments, and plenty of the time those are negative experiences because they are relevant. I'm not a downer, and if you knew me you'd agree.

Goofle 12-31-2011 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138677)
I get why it would appear that way, but the majority of my posts ain't like that. I just post a lot in controversial topics like this, where things are bound to get heated and/or emotional. I use my personal experiences to back up my arguments, and plenty of the time those are negative experiences because they are relevant. I'm not a downer, and if you knew me you'd agree.

You are one of my favourite posters. Just noticed that I expected a dramatic post, and didn't get one.

Janszoon 12-31-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1138670)
Actually, I am a girl. I just lack the equipment. That's how me and most other trans* individuals see themselves anyway.

But as far as how Disney would portray a transgendered person in a movie, I would think it would pretty much have to be as I described. Otherwise it wouldn't really make the point would it?

Above 12-31-2011 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1138681)
But as far as how Disney would portray a transgendered person in a movie, I would think it would pretty much have to be as I described. Otherwise it wouldn't really make the point would it?

Yeah, in that context I would definitely agree with you. I admit I haven't seen many Disney movies with trans* themes other than Mulan, but yeah. I think there should be more of this stuff in films aimed at children. We should be taught to think critically from an early age rather than be indoctrinated into our gender roles, which need to go.


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