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Prop 8 Ruled Unconstitutional

Hopefully it will spread across the nation.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1151288)

Hopefully it will spread across the nation.

Me too. There's absolutely no reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. There's supposed to be a separation of church and state, but all of the arguments against gay marriage I've heard have been religious. I just hope people come to their senses.

It's no different than how women and black people were treated 50 years ago. Funny how plain that is to see for people on MB, yet the ignorant people in our society are too blinded by their hatred to see the connection.

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1151291)

**** religion. Religion seems to foster more hate than good.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1151288)

Hopefully it will spread across the nation.

Given the actual text of the decision (which is extremely narrow), it seems unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1151294)

Is same sex marriage even mentioned in the bible? I don't understand where the foundation of their hate for gay marriage comes from. It seems like it's just some personal belief that religious people have, and because they are religious, they justify it as a religious belief. But it's not just religious people that don't like gay marriage. There are plenty of non religious people who are just flat out hateful towards things that are different from themselves.

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1151294)

Let's look at how voting on Prop 8 broke down by major ethnic groups:

http://citizenchris.typepad.com/phot..._8_by_race.jpg
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So, most Black Americans deny this connection. Further, let's keep in mind:

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African Americans, energized by Barack Obama's presidential bid, boosted their numbers at the polls this year to 10 percent of the state's electorate, up from 6 percent in 2004.

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...which is huge.

And then the court goes against popular will, in a judgment which is not being derided solely among conservatives;

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...it confirms conservative claims that judges are running amok -- inventing new rights and substituting their preferences for those of the people acting through democratic institutions.

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So, Black Americans deny there is a relationship between Gay Marriage and the Civil Rights Movement, turn out in massive numbers and help defeat Gay Marriage, and then the Appeals Court makes their involvement in this defeat irrelevant.

...and you want to sell this is as a victory for civil rights? Really?

You want to use this as a springboard for your bull**** right wing rhetoric? Really?

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1151408)

...and you want to sell this is as a victory for civil rights? Really?

People who were denied civil rights now have them in California. Therefore it's a victory for civil rights. Pretty simple really.