Brazil night club fire --- when will these bands get sense?
 

What a ****ing tragedy! So many young people dead, and all because some stupid **** in a band thought it would be a good idea to let off a flare in an enclosed space! Are these people mentally deficient or what? If they survived the band member(s) responsible should be charged with culpable manslaughter or something.

BBC News - Brazil nightclub fire in Santa Maria kills 233

I remember when this happened in Ireland (Stardust Nightclub) in the 80s, but there the cause was not completely ever determined, and the main thing there was that all the emergency exits were blocked so that people couldn't slip in without paying. Jesus, can you imagine the panic? And now here we are, thirty years later, with another tragedy born of a fire in a night club. When will people learn to take precautions and not be so stupid? I weep for those who lost their lives, but I grind my teeth in anger for the idiocy of those who inadvertently started the fire.

Yeah saw this, really is tragic.

Letting fireworks off on stage, thick bastards.

It's ridiculous and sad. My mom said this happened in Montreal in the 70's sometime, in some club that was on the second floor of a building and all there was only one exit which was blocked. Nobody got out.

There was also the fire at the Great White concert in West Warwick, Rhode Island here in the US in 2003. Killed 100 people. All because of the band's pyrotechnics and the club's flammable acoustic foam.

Type 'Station nightclub fire' into Youtube, that one is bad. EDIT - It's the same one Janzsoon is talking about sorry.

Think at one point you see the doorway blocked and it's just bodies upon bodies that tried to get out. Grim as ****.

It's shocking how quickly it spreads though.


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This is bad too. Stand burns down live during a televised football match. That video is still used today in fire safety to show how quickly it spreads. Both tragic and fascinating.

Flammable foam and pyro? Whoever organised the venues events wanted fired from that job, for sure.

:yikes:

Ah how I wish that had been an intentional pun. Sadly I am not that bright a spark.

When will dudes in bands grow up and get sense? Good luck with that.

Disturbing video.



No doubt, lots of pain and suffering were involved before they went unconscious. 60 bodies inside the toilets alone? Ugh.

For those of you who don't know about it, and don't think the Irish are as stupid as the rest of the world...

For anybody who is too lazy to youtube the Station Night Club fire. This is still the most difficult video I've ever had to watch. Ever. I'm not even going to watch it after I post it. There is no gore. You see one or two people on fire but besides that it's mostly just sound as you hear people in hysterics as to what is actually happening. There are also some screams coming from inside. It's just bone chilling. Half the band died and over 100 people perished. This along with what happened in Brazil is the reason that I stay near exits in a packed concert and why is I ever saw anything that has to do with flames being displayed I would leave no matter who I was seeing or how good it was. My worst fear ever is to die or be in a fire and things like this just kill me.



Edit: My morbid curiosity made me watch it again. I'm destroyed for the whole day now. I cry every ****ing time. Don't watch this video.

I don't think any of the band members died actually, but certainly a horrible incident.

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It was just one of the members. My mistake.

Ah, I didn't realize any of them died.

The DJ that was covering the show died too. I think I combined him with the guitarist.

Just watched part of it. Who the hell shot that?

A cameraman ironically covering the show to document a fire safety demonstration. The actual fire kicks in about 6-8 minutes in. The cameraman notices the fire early and smartly gets the **** out. You can't hear it but apparently on his way out he was telling people to leave and they were just watching the fire thinking it was neat. He also moved a table out of the way of the front door. Dude is a good man.

A sad as it is, these type of disasters occur with frequency in these countries, as health and safety at times is extremely limited comapred to Europe or Nth America. This is just one of those cases that garnered wider attention, most go unnoticed outside of where they took place.

according to some reports, it looks like this incident was preplanned by some people.

So the band plotted to kill all of their fans then?...Hardly

Yeah, I've seen this a number of times in fire safety training. It's scary to watch.

The scariest part of the video is the prelude to the fire, seeing all of the people that have a 1/4 chance in surviving. Absolutely sickening and saddening.

I'm the same way. And whenever I enter a new building or room in general I ALWAYS take a look around to spot all the exits and fire alarms/extinguishers. It's mandatory here (as I'm sure it is in most other places) to have exits to outside clearly marked with a lit sign, and directions to those exits marked with arrows.

I'm sorry, but really? You do that? That sounds like ludicrously paranoid behavior. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but that just sounds ridiculous.

I never do that either but there ye go. I guess I am more likely than Burning Down to die in a fire. However if I saw some **** kick off on the ceiling from pyrotechnics, the first thing i would do is get the **** out of there.

I don't do that in every new place I go to, but I do do it pretty much any time I'm somewhere really crowded.

Really? I don't think I've ever heard of anyone I know doing that. *shrug*

Its the first thing i look for in a crowded place also. You don't really have time to think when a fire breaks out and people start to panic. I wouldn't call it paranoid so much as prepared.

I started doing it after this happened in the city I lived in at the time.

It's not paranoid nor is it ridiculous. It's a good idea to be prepared for anything like that. I value my life and I would not like to die in a fire - that would be absolutely brutal. I don't want to be cooked to death. Personal story time:

About four or five years ago I was staying overnight in my friend's dorm at my university, and the residence it was in is a typical high rise building - 11 floors. When I was there some drunk first year thought it would be a good idea to pour gasoline inside both elevators, press all the buttons, and set it on fire. So when the elevators opened on each floor, the fire would spread to the hallway. Then he threw newspapers soaked in gas at the bottom of all the stairwells except for one, lit it on fire, and ran away from the building. So nobody had a way out except for that one single stairwell, and people on the lower floors were just jumping off the balconies. I was on the 11th floor and thought I wouldn't get out, but I did.

Nobody died but tons of people were treated for smoke inhalation (myself and my friend included) and several people were admitted to hospital for second and even third degree burns. The school closed the building for the next few months and everyone in there had to go live in hotels until they opened the residence up again.

Oh yeah, the guy was caught, was expelled from school and he went to jail for a couple of years, and now he has no chance of ever enrolling in university or college anywhere. And since he was still underage at the time, the university sued his parents for all the damages - it ended up being in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Holy shit. I'm glad everyone was okay.

Unbelievable what some gob****es call fun! What if people had died? That's not manslaughter, that's first-degree murder! I mean, what the **** did he think was going to happen? Not only did he start a fire, he made sure it spread AND he cut off the exits too! Evil little ****! Hope he got a terrible time in jail. :mad:

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but a friend of mine is living in Sao Paulo, and she heard on the news that the security officers thought that all the commotion was a fight, and they were scared that people would start leaving without paying, so they locked the doors from the outside...

Yeah, the story on the Irish news was that one emergency exit was locked, the other had bouncers at it who thought people were trying to skip out on their bar tab and turned back those trying to escape. Jesus, if they survived how must they feel now, knowing they (inadvertently) drove people back into the fire, and most likely a horrible death? :eek:

I am not saying it is true but that rumor is strongly considered. Some reports say that supposely this band used Fire that was only supposed to be used only for Outside use not Inside use.

Well that could easily be just plain ignorance or stupidity, not intent to murder.

That is that what I think that may have occured. Just some dumb decision that caused a unfortuante tragedy.