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Old 07-18-2013, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been reading about the recent filibuster by Wendy Davis which prevented the 20 week abortion bill from passing. What are your thoughts on this? I realise this is a very controversial topic so please try to keep the debate clean and within the MB rules.

Here is a pro-life article on the event

Here is a article showing the difference in protesters (with the ridiculous "Hail Satan" input.

Here is Wendy's take on the event:

Texas state leaders have again taken up a partisan effort to impose severe restrictions on the ability of women in our state to receive reproductive and other crucial health-care services.

Just a few weeks ago, I spent nearly 13 hours filibustering this bill. I stood up to filibuster the bill because Texas Republican leaders would rather pursue a partisan agenda than help Texas women. I stood to oppose the bill because it rolled back constitutional rights and would reduce the number of women's health clinics from 42 to 5, thereby threatening the health and safety of thousands of Texas women.

I know how important this is because as a young woman, the only health care I received -- preventative care, cancer screenings, checkups etc. -- came from a women's health clinic close to where I live in Fort Worth. Indeed, more than 90 percent of the care provided by these centers has nothing at all to do with abortion. Quite the opposite, their services are absolutely critical to preventing unplanned pregnancies and to providing much-needed health-care screening.

So while the "people's filibuster" will go down in history for putting a stop (if only temporarily) to a misguided bill, the filibuster was more than organized opposition or even endurance -- it was an expression of mainstream Texans standing up against partisan power-mongers who no longer act in Texas' best interest or even tell Texans the truth.

These partisans have depicted their bill as an effort to improve the quality of care available to women in local clinics. The filibuster, however, exposed their real intent -- to close clinics all over the state of Texas and deny health-care services to thousands of Texas women.

And now Gov. Rick Perry and Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst have rammed these new restrictions through the state legislature in a special session, without concern for health care or constitutionality.

This partisan effort builds on a concerted action by state leaders to roll back access to women's and family health care. In 2011, their budget cuts threw approximately 150,000 women out of a health safety net that, as in my experience, served as their only source of regular, reliable care.

Since then, state leaders have bypassed a nine-to-one federal match in funding for the women's health-care program and saddled state taxpayers with approximately $30 million per year in unnecessary expense, as well as millions of additional dollars spent through Medicaid on unplanned births.

Worse, a vendetta against Planned Parenthood by Perry and Dewhurst has gutted nearly half of the state's women's health-care delivery system. As a consequence, tens of thousands of Texas women may very well have no providers of care despite additional state funding.

A great deal of attention has been given to the portion of the bill that would ban abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy, which was added by partisans primarily as a means for whipping up their political base.

But this cynical and dishonest political tactic puts women's lives at risk. Less than 1 percent of all abortions in Texas occur at the 20th week or later. In nearly all of these cases, a family in tragic circumstances has had to make the difficult and private decision to let go of a much-wanted pregnancy because of a major medical concern.

What's more, state leaders don't mention that they opposed and defeated an amendment to allow an exception to the 20-week ban when a woman has been raped or is the victim of incest. This exception is no small matter. Each year, about 25,000 American women -- 30 percent of them minors -- become pregnant through rape or incest.

In the end, the filibuster was a means to continue the fight and stand up to Republican leaders. That fight is not a new one for me.

As a senator from the only true swing district in the Texas Senate, I've been targeted by the GOP for my outspoken criticism of its extremist attacks on public education and voting rights, to name just two examples. My nearly 13-hour stand against the effort to deny women access to basic health care evolved into a people's filibuster opposing a selfish and out-of-touch leadership that refuses to listen to real families with real hopes.

Texas really is the greatest state in the greatest nation. Texans -- and women all over the country -- deserve leaders that care, that listen and that work to protect their interests.

The people's filibuster demonstrated that Texans -- and women everywhere -- are ready and willing to fight back.

Texas State Sen. Wendy Davis, a Democrat, represents District 10 of the Texas Senate. This column was distributed by The Washington Post, where it first appeared.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I would change the title to "Pro-Life or Pro-Choice". Pro-abortion is a bit of a dirty term as it's often used in a smearing manner to make pro-choicers sound like evil monsters instead of decent people standing up for preserving human rights above enforced morality. I think you can probably guess which side of the argument I'm on.
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I would change the title to "Pro-Life or Pro-Choice". Pro-abortion is a bit of a dirty term as it's often used in a smearing manner to make pro-choicers sound like evil monsters instead of decent people standing up for preserving human rights above enforced morality. I think you can probably guess which side of the argument I'm on.
Came here to say this. Same page, my friend.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:25 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I would change the title to "Pro-Life or Pro-Choice". Pro-abortion is a bit of a dirty term as it's often used in a smearing manner to make pro-choicers sound like evil monsters instead of decent people standing up for preserving human rights above enforced morality. I think you can probably guess which side of the argument I'm on.
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Heh, me too. I've encountered a lot of people who seem to think that the counter to being pro-life, is to have a careless attitude toward abortion. Basically people who think that if you're not pro-life, you're actively killing babies or something. Quite staggering really.
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Heh, me too. I've encountered a lot of people who seem to think that the counter to being pro-life, is to have a careless attitude toward abortion. Basically people who think that if you're not pro-life, you're actively killing babies or something. Quite staggering really.
You should see some of the comments on these pro-life websites. There are some really ignorant people on there.
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Heh, me too. I've encountered a lot of people who seem to think that the counter to being pro-life, is to have a careless attitude toward abortion. Basically people who think that if you're not pro-life, you're actively killing babies or something. Quite staggering really.
Pro-Choice for life. Pro informed choices also.
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Pro-Choice for life. Pro informed choices also.
Especially when it comes to those who've been victims of rape or incest.
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I'm absolutely pro-choice. I'll even go one further and say I'm pro-choosing-not-to-have-kids-because-the-world-is-in-no-state-for-it, but ultimately, I'll be dead by the time the planet caves in, so my opinion doesn't really matter in that case.
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I would change the title to "Pro-Life or Pro-Choice". Pro-abortion is a bit of a dirty term as it's often used in a smearing manner to make pro-choicers sound like evil monsters instead of decent people standing up for preserving human rights above enforced morality. I think you can probably guess which side of the argument I'm on.
This pseudo-Libertarian, "don't force your morality on me!" nonsense doesn't fly because the issue at hand is the Government forcing people to subsidize abortion.
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