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Isbjørn 04-15-2014 09:57 AM

You can't marry 14 year-olds now. Hopefully, that's a pro

Paul Smeenus 04-15-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1440104)
Viking attacks are at an all-time low.


This topic is well documented here

http://www.musicbanter.com/sport-rec...gs-thread.html

djchameleon 04-15-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1440121)
You can't marry 14 year-olds now. Hopefully, that's a pro

That's not true. Girls as young as seven are still being married off to older men. It is a serious issue still.

The Batlord 04-15-2014 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1440124)
That's not true. Girls as young as seven are still being married off to older men. It is a serious issue still.

It's still a far smaller issue than it was in the past, depending on what part of the world you live in. And the sheer fact that people are actually concerned about it is a big step forward. ****, the fact that we can even afford to worry about it due to life expectancy being so high and infant mortality rate being so low is as close to a miracle as an atheist like me is willing to acknowledge.

As far as I'm concerned, anybody who thinks that the world is worse off today than it was has a persecution complex the same as any Christian who believes that the world is coming to an end in their life time. Of course they're living through the worst time the world has ever seen. Of course this time that they're living through just ever so happens to be the time that Jesus rides down on his white horse.

Isbjørn 04-15-2014 10:20 AM

We're currently butchering the climate, that's a bigger issue than ever.

Paul Smeenus 04-15-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1440136)
We're currently butchering the climate, that's a bigger issue than ever.


This is the only truly compelling "world is worse" argument I've heard

The Batlord 04-15-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1440136)
We're currently butchering the climate, that's a bigger issue than ever.

Meh. Don't get me wrong, that sucks, but that's more a result of our ability to ruin the environment than humanity sucking and more. We've been destroying the environment to the best of our abilities for thousands of years, now we're just ultra good at it. Europeans used to think that nature was a bad thing, that it was incumbent on us by some divine mandate to tame it and make it useful. Now we've changed a lot. We may not be perfect, or even particularly good at conservation, but I'd take today's attitude toward the environment over our attitude even just a few decades ago any day.

Isbjørn 04-15-2014 10:31 AM

Hopefully, we'll manage to successfully reverse the changes we've made. Maybe. I have faith in scientists, but in politicians, not so much.

Black Francis 04-15-2014 03:32 PM

The planet will survive the change of climate, we won't.

We're not really hurting the planet we're hurting ourselves.

But i think we're trying to leave behind the old harmful ways of consuming the planet resources and now want a more eco friendly solution that is better in the long run.
Im optimistic that the future is gonna be more environmentally friendly, more products will be biodegradable, Toxic waste will be disposed better and we'll recycle old products to make the new ones.

We already do this, we are already looking for a better solution, it's just gonna take time to change our way of doing things.

Freebase Dali 04-15-2014 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1440136)
We're currently butchering the climate, that's a bigger issue than ever.

I'm not a climate denier or anything, but I missed the part where conclusive evidence was found, released and peer reviewed confirming that indeed, climate change is the result of human action.

Even with my limited knowledge of the subject matter, I know that climate change as a function is completely natural to our world and needs no human intervention. So if the statement is to be made that humans are outdoing nature to some catastrophic extent, I'd definitely be interested in any quantitative data to suggest that, absent any oft-politicized correlations.


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