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Oriphiel 12-12-2014 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1521658)
There is no such thing as American news anymore. There's a ton of American Partisan Commentary shows though.

Yeah, you're right. It's kind of funny that a comedy website I sometimes go to cites their sources better than most news channels I've seen. But to be fair, it's not limited to the U.S., as overzealous news outlets are kind of a world-wide thing (The Daily Mail in the UK comes to mind).

John Wilkes Booth 12-12-2014 05:30 PM

i think npr is pretty decent tbh. i know a lot of people find it pretentious and it is.. but news wise they stay pretty reasonable. i say reasonable instead of objective cause you really can't have objective news.

whats funny is npr is state funded which would seemingly make them the perfect airhorn for propaganda yet since our politics are ruled by money more than anything else the more lucrative private news stations do a lot more propaganda than the state run news station.

Chula Vista 12-12-2014 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1521911)
i think npr is pretty decent tbh.

Agreed. I was referring to television. NPR does try to stay pretty neutral but will lean a little to the left now and then.

Neapolitan 12-12-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1521178)
you really thought i was referring to the syrian christians with that sentence? i can never tell if you're trolling me, lol

Before you said "they" you were talking about both "muslims" and Christians then around the world. So the antecedent for "they" could any one of them, I assume by the way you treat the English language. What I said was a just-in-case you meant people who were persecuted in Syria. Which is something I wouldn't put pass you cause the way you come off. The Syrian Christians were brought up because of the original comparison between American Christian and Christians around the world who faced real persecution (physical violence or death). I didn't mention atheist and Shia muslims but that doesn't mean I don't care them being persecute or killed. And after my statement about the Syrian Christians I noticed you go on and make a couple of slights against Christians, so it just goes to show...

Lord Larehip 12-12-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel (Post 1519815)
I guess a certain percentage of any demographic are *******s, and vice versa

???Vice-versa in this case is that *******s are any demographic of a certain percentage.

Lord Larehip 12-12-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1521911)
whats funny is npr is state funded which would seemingly make them the perfect airhorn for propaganda .

NPR receives very little state funding. Federal, state and local govt funding of NPR is only 5.8% of the total. Most of it is listener supported (32.1%) and businesses (21.1%). Universities kick in another 13.6% and foundations kick in 9.6%. The corporation for Public Broadcasting, which is federally funded, kicks in 10.1%. The other 7.6% is listed as "other".

Don’t Forget the Facts About NPR Funding : Columbia Journalism Review

The CPB's own pie chart is a little different but not by much. These may have been two different years as well but regardless, state funding of NPR is miniscule.

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013...d-s800-c85.jpg

John Wilkes Booth 12-12-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1521940)
Before you said "they" you were talking about both "muslims" and Christians then around the world. So the antecedent for "they" could any one of them, I assume by the way you treat the English language. What I said was a just-in-case you meant people who were persecuted in Syria. Which is something I wouldn't put pass you cause the way you come off. The Syrian Christians were brought up because of the original comparison between American Christian and Christians around the world who faced real persecution (physical violence or death). I didn't mention atheist and Shia muslims but that doesn't mean I don't care them being persecute or killed. And after my statement about the Syrian Christians I noticed you go on and make a couple of slights against Christians, so it just goes to show...

that whole post was clarifying that i was talking about my opinion on the motivations of american christians playing the victim card. i guess i assumed common sense would tell you who i was accusing of playing the victim at the end of the post.

and yea i made a couple harmless jokes about christians afterwards. feel free call the outrage brigade at once. i'm just too edgy for the internet, man.

John Wilkes Booth 12-13-2014 02:55 AM

^bump - was a bit drunk here, maybe i shouldn't be such a dick about it. honestly though i get the feeling that you look for things to nitpick with me since i offended you with that bill cosby joke. maybe i am just paranoid but really i felt like the meaning of my post was pretty obvious and the language wasn't that ambiguous. wasn't trying to be misleading. and with the christian comments i was just joking like i said and once again wasn't really out to give a genuine criticism of the religion which is why i didn't take your objections all that seriously cause it's like i was making dumb jokes and you were responding to them as if they were serious points. maybe there is some communication barrier between us. i'm not trying to be offensive but i am curious, is english your first language?

DeadChannel 12-14-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1521963)
???Vice-versa in this case is that *******s are any demographic of a certain percentage.

Okay, weird grammatical screw up on my part.

only_dancing 12-20-2014 09:16 PM

I think some people feel insulted because by being an atheist they think you're denying them their beliefs. Whereas agnostics can say "well your belief may or may not be valid" people think an atheist is saying "your belief is not valid"... whether the atheist is saying that or not.

Also many holy books make it seem like being a non-believer is worse than murder...

As far as agnostics who think atheists are awful, I don't get what their problem is.


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