Please sign this to prevent a man being executed for voicing his opinion...

Trollheart · 03-11-2015, 02:56 PM

Anyway, don't you know that for evil to triumph it is enough for good men to do nothing?

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 03-12-2015, 01:16 AM

yea, i didn't mean for other people to not sign it. everybody else should sign it but me. that's how this is supposed to work.

Isbjørn · 03-12-2015, 01:28 PM

I've always wondered how those signature campaigns really work. Are the Saudi-Arabian authorities supposed to see all the signatures and think "Oh, two thousand people disapprove of this, maybe we should rethink the whole thing?" Or is the organization behind the campaign going to take some sort of action when they have a certain amount of signatures? If so, why would they have to wait?

Aight, I signed it. These guys better not distribute my e-mail adress and postal code.

The Batlord · 03-12-2015, 01:37 PM

I remember something like this happening a number of years ago in Afghanistan -- where apostasy also carries the death penalty -- and the person was only saved when world leaders publicly condemned the sentence. Without that kind of high profile international pressure I don't see anything happening, and since nobody wants to say **** to the Saudis with all their oil, I imagine this is probably going to be shuffled off to the side until the problem "goes away".

Chula Vista · 03-12-2015, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Isbjørn

I've always wondered how those signature campaigns really work. Are the Saudi-Arabian authorities supposed to see all the signatures and think "Oh, two thousand people disapprove of this, maybe we should rethink the whole thing?"

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

if you read the article, she's asking for a petition which she will hand to the German official whom she's meeting. He in turn is meeting with the king, shah or whatever the **** and if there are enough sigs he will perhaps be able to show him, look, so many people are against this idea, don't you think you should maybe change the sentence? Or something. But it's not just something you'd expect the ruler to read: he'll be handed it, or it will be referred to, by the German guy.

There ya go.

Signed and shared.

Trollheart · 03-13-2015, 08:36 PM

Thanks man!

VEGANGELICA · 03-18-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I got this email today and it ****ing shocked me, though why I don't know; we should sadly expect this sort of thing from Saudi Arabia now. But does a man deserve to die for "insulting Islam" by writing a blog?

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/free_rai...YKfhfb&v=54782

Thank you, Trollheart, for caring about this Saudi man who was imprisoned and possibly will be condemned to death by the Saudi Arabian government simply because of what he wrote in his Blog.

I've signed the petition to save him and now 1,370,256 people have done so.

Xurtio · 03-18-2015, 10:14 AM

Thank you all for putting yourselves on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's terrorist watch list. We appreciate the convenience you've afforded our clandestine operations intelligence gathering officers.

Key · 03-18-2015, 10:23 AM

This type of stuff is stuff I don't really get involved in for the same reason other people posted. There's a good chance it won't make a difference. If it works, that's great. But I'm always skeptical of this stuff especially if they've already made their decision before the petition was even brought up.

Xurtio · 03-18-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

This type of stuff is stuff I don't really get involved in for the same reason other people posted. There's a good chance it won't make a difference. If it works, that's great. But I'm always skeptical of this stuff especially if they've already made their decision before the petition was even brought up.

When it comes to stopping the punishment, I don't think it will either. Then again, there's a new king in SA and he might have a chance to set an example. He's aware of the cultural clash between east and west and even appears to desire democracy, but doesn't think it's practical to convert a whole country to democracy (it will come with cultural clashes that will destabilize SA).

Either way though, I think spreading the meme (not the internet meme definition, actual memes as in cultural ideas) of freedom of speech can have a positive effect as it trickles into the young, malleable minds of each generation.

03-11-2015, 02:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,971	Anyway, don't you know that for evil to triumph it is enough for good men to do nothing? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

03-12-2015, 01:28 PM	#23 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	I've always wondered how those signature campaigns really work. Are the Saudi-Arabian authorities supposed to see all the signatures and think "Oh, two thousand people disapprove of this, maybe we should rethink the whole thing?" Or is the organization behind the campaign going to take some sort of action when they have a certain amount of signatures? If so, why would they have to wait? Aight, I signed it. These guys better not distribute my e-mail adress and postal code. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

03-13-2015, 08:36 PM	#26 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,971	Thanks man! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

03-18-2015, 10:14 AM	#28 (permalink)
Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	Thank you all for putting yourselves on the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's terrorist watch list. We appreciate the convenience you've afforded our clandestine operations intelligence gathering officers. __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

03-12-2015, 01:16 AM	#22 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	yea, i didn't mean for other people to not sign it. everybody else should sign it but me. that's how this is supposed to work.

03-18-2015, 10:23 AM	#29 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	This type of stuff is stuff I don't really get involved in for the same reason other people posted. There's a good chance it won't make a difference. If it works, that's great. But I'm always skeptical of this stuff especially if they've already made their decision before the petition was even brought up.