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RoxyRollah 06-01-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1704076)
It was in reference to the dad bod joke.

I actually plagiarized you you egomanical bearded weirdo. So I thought. Whoes the plagiarist now?

Frownland 06-01-2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704077)
Ill see you as my ships medallion hippy.

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What does that even mean

Frownland 06-01-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704079)
I actually plagiarized you you egomanical bearded weirdo. So I thought. Whoes the plagiarist now?

I don't know about that. I'm never self deprecating.

RoxyRollah 06-01-2016 09:43 PM

Same thing as my outdated reign rotting in helm. nautical humour over your head. Keep up.

RoxyRollah 06-01-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1704081)
I don't know about that. I'm never self deprecating.

See picture gallery.

Frownland 06-01-2016 09:45 PM

Nice

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704082)
Same thing as my outdated reign rotting in helm. nautical humour over your head. Keep up.

I still don't know what it means though.

RoxyRollah 06-01-2016 09:46 PM

Omg you wrote it.Take your meds "roxy".

The Batlord 06-01-2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704067)
Really my ninja. Hes listed as Democratic but listen to the **** he says he comes out with socialisit **** everyday.hes a puppet frankly..

So he's not openly socialist. He would have to claim to be a socialist for that.

RoxyRollah 06-01-2016 09:48 PM

Meh. ....

Frownland 06-01-2016 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704086)
Omg you wrote it.Take your meds "roxy".

I wrote helm but I didn't write what you wrote. Take your meds Roxxy.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 03:42 AM

Oh shut up it was a great joke.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704030)
she is in bed with the Saudis

The US has been in bed with the Saudis ever since they agreed to let us set up huge military bases in their country.

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And if the hate is because she's a Washington scumbag, well, that's pretty dumb. Every professional politician is a scumbag whether it's at the local, state, or Federal level.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 10:25 AM

Bro your oversized images show me **** I already know. I didn't say that. What Im saying is this woman is a ****ty person, a war criminal, and a globalist. Ok. People are resoponding to Trumps messages because he at least is speaking to our loss of sovereignty and national identity. Im noy saying he's not flawed. But he pales in comparison to the comandant there hes in no way as bad as she is. She is a public servant and she has only served herself.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704220)
Bro your oversized images show me **** I already know. I didn't say that. What Im saying is this woman is a ****ty person, a war criminal, and a globalist. Ok. People are resoponding to Trumps messages because he at least is speaking to our loss of sovereignty and national identity. Im noy saying he's not flawed. But he pales in comparison to the comandant there hes in no way as bad as she is. She is a public servant and she has only served herself.

Yes you did. You said she's in bed with the Saudis. You made it a point. How is she a ****ty person? How is she a war criminal? That whole Libya thing is so blown out of proportion by the right it's ridiculous. Just like Benghazi was. How has she only served herself? You keep spouting off on her like she's unique in some kinda way in regard to politicians.

Trump is a snake oil salesman who appeals to the lowest common denomination of the Republican party. He says **** to rile up the angry white and kinda dumb voters who are still pissed that the Tea Party went up in flames.

He says **** like "We're going to make America great again", but then backs it up with absolutely no substance. Or, "We're going to get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something really great", and again, with no substance as to what he's going to do. And instead of people demanding specifics from him they simply lap it up.

He's run four corporations into the ground. His football league was a disaster. His university was a scam and is being investigated. He boasts about using bankruptcy laws in order to make money while destroying the livelihood of thousands of people who trusted him. He's a misogynist, a racist, a sexist, ridiculously egotistical, and a pretty big douche by a lot of accounts.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 10:58 AM

I didn't say I agree with his policies you aren't understanding me at all. Im sorry I don't speak Newleft. He is winning in popularity, because he is speaking to the people about their way of life being eroded. Hillary Clinton again her and Nosferatu Clinton have put more black people in jail in this country then any other administration. She will say and do anything to become president. Ok, she is a globalist, with plans on continuing this ****ty administration we have now. She doesn't give a **** about women. She doesn't support anything that I value as an AMERICAN, like my ****ing rights 1-10. Ok, for the last time, I don't vote because I know it's a scam. And Before I knew we had a two party politburo in this country I was on probation and couldn't vote, and before that I was too young to vote. So stop it with the yer just a republican nonsense I ****ing told you all 30 times I have recently become more libertarian then anything else. I am not a slave, I do not need nor want to be sucking off the teet of big government. I want government more localized. I want more freedom from this outta control beast that is called the federal government.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704237)
He is winning in popularity, because he is speaking to the people about their way of life being eroded. So stop it with the yer just a republican nonsense.

I didn't refer to you as a republican. And Trump is not winning in popularity.

And as far as your sweeping statement about Clinton and the black prison population. You may want to look into the facts rather than running with only a few soundbites.

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African-Americans in particular are locked up at disproportionate rates. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 37 percent of the 1.5 million men in state and federal prisons in 2013 were black, more than twice the percentage of their share of the population.

It wasn’t always this high; before 1975, the incarceration rate hovered around 200 prisoners.

Some of the growth had to do with Clinton policies, but experts said not all.

Crime policy during the 1970s and 1980s was driven by the "War on Drugs," an initiative launched by President Richard Nixon in 1971. Nixon famously called drug abuse "public enemy No. 1," which led to tougher sentencing and more arrests.

New York passed the nation’s first mandatory minimums for drug offenses in 1973, and Washington passed the first state-level truth-in-sentencing law in 1984. By 1987, five states had adopted sentencing guidelines for judges to follow.

President Bill Clinton took office in January 1993 touting a "tough-on-crime" agenda in response to an increase in violent crime and swelling homicide numbers. High-profile killings, such as the murder of Polly Klaas, followed later that year.

Bill Clinton was instrumental in the passage of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. Authored by then-Sen. Joe Biden, the sweeping crime bill provided $10 billion to fund new prisons, $6.1 billion for crime prevention and money for 100,000 new police officers.

So did the crime bill lead to mass incarceration?

The overall inmate population of the United States has grown significantly since 1994. But the sharp upward trend actually started in the early 1980s. Prisons were adding inmates in 1990 at about the same rate they were in 1997, three years after the crime bill became law.

In addition, the bill’s new sentencing standards only directly applied to federal cases. But most of the growth since 1980 has taken place within state systems, which have added almost 1.25 million prisoners over that time.

So even though the number of people in federal prison has grown, perhaps as a result of those new standards, federal prisoners represent only a small fraction of the national prison population’s overall growth.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 11:09 AM

Ok. Exactly how in touch are you with the black community?

Oh his numbers aren't getting more popular every time there is some stunt pulled at one of his rallies? Ok. If you say so.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704245)
Ok. Exactly how in touch are you with the black community?

Stop sidetracking. Number are numbers. You blame the Clinton's but the numbers do not back you up. I fully support Black Lives Matter for what it's worth. I am after all a "newlefty".

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 11:19 AM

You're fucking kidding me right? I don't even support that because all lives matter, and it's race baiting garbage. Let me ask you this do you feel guilty for being white?

Frownland 06-02-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704260)
You're fucking kidding me right? I don't even support that because all lives matter, and it's race baiting garbage. Let me ask you this do you feel guilty for being white?

Way to entirely misunderstand the group's purpose through a Rush Limbaugh lens.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 11:27 AM

You don't support Black Lives Matter who campaigns against, among other things, racial inequality in US prisons, yet you slam the Clinton's over blacks in prison?

*mind blown*

You are a paradox.

Frownland 06-02-2016 11:29 AM

Do the cognitive disco dance.

Goofle 06-02-2016 11:45 AM

All lives includes Black lives.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1704282)
All lives includes Black lives.

This:

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The slogan "Black lives matter" was initiated two years ago around the hotly debated death of Trayvon Martin in Florida. A year later, the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, led to renewed calls for politicians and others to address the issue of police brutality. But after the videos of Eric Garner, John Crawford, Tamir Rice, and Walter Scott, there is no debate any more. Just this week, there's a new video surfacing on the arrest and mysterious circumstances of the death of Sandra Bland in Texas. And the story of the fatal shooting of another black man, apparently unarmed, by a University of Cincinnati police officer.
I am sure Gov. O'Malley did not mean any harm when he said "All lives matter." In fact he apologized, saying, "I did not mean to be insensitive in any way or communicate that I did not understand the tremendous passion, commitment and feeling and depth of feeling that all of us should be attaching to this issue."
But when someone says ALL lives matter, it can sound like that person is dismissing the specific pain behind the slogan. And that is something that the young people organizing in community after community cannot easily tolerate. They have been to too many funerals. They have seen too many of these horrific videos watching their friends die right in front of their own eyes.
Of course ALL lives matter. But there is no serious question about the value of the life of a young white girl or boy. Sadly, there is a serious question -- between gang violence and this police violence -- about the value of the life of a young black girl or boy. So those who are experiencing the pain and trauma of the black experience in this country don't want their rallying cry to be watered down with a generic feel-good catchphrase.
Imagine a series of sexual assaults by men against women on a campus. Someone says, "Men on this campus need to stop raping women!" And someone responds, "Well, everyone should just stop raping everyone." You can see why some women might feel this is missing the point.

"When you have a specific pain, you want a specific slogan."

Goofle 06-02-2016 12:12 PM

My comment still stands. And that doesn't mean I disagree with people fighting for any injustice they see in regards to Black people, I simply dislike the actions of specific Black Lives Matter activists. And you can only judge a movement on the actions of it's members, regardless of how principled the foundations are.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1704298)
My comment still stands. And that doesn't mean I disagree with people fighting for any injustice they see in regards to Black people, I simply dislike the actions of specific Black Lives Matter activists. And you can only judge a movement on the actions of it's members, regardless of how principled the foundations are.

Every movement or establishment has its whackos. Unfortunately they are the only ones that are worthy of the evening news. Hence why so many on the right can easily dismiss BLM.

Goofle 06-02-2016 12:22 PM

Obviously I don't know every person who associates themselves with the movement, but I know that several leaders are intolerable people.

Frownland 06-02-2016 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1704298)
My comment still stands. And that doesn't mean I disagree with people fighting for any injustice they see in regards to Black people, I simply dislike the actions of specific Black Lives Matter activists. And you can only judge a movement on the actions of it's members, regardless of how principled the foundations are.

So how can you support men's rights while it has so many supporters that are blatant mysogynists?

Goofle 06-02-2016 12:42 PM

"Men's Rights" isn't one strand of a wider movement. It is the wider movement itself. I can and do dislike individual members, offshoots or ideologies within it.

BLM is an offshoot of the wider Civil Rights and Women's Rights movements. And I support both of those wider movements.

Anyway, you guys go back to arguing about your next President.

Xurtio 06-02-2016 12:45 PM

"all lives matter" is a bit apologetic and reactionary.

the slogan "black lives matter" isn't saying "other lives don't matter". It's saying "why are we being treated like lesser valued life than others? we matter too!"

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 12:47 PM

Uhm, huh? Did you say something? I was too busy looking at your Ariana avatar.

Frownland 06-02-2016 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1704323)
"Men's Rights" isn't one strand of a wider movement. It is the wider movement itself. I can and do dislike individual members, offshoots or ideologies within it.

BLM is an offshoot of the wider Civil Rights and Women's Rights movements. And I support both of those wider movements.

Anyway, you guys go back to arguing about your next President.

Yes and it has a few bad apples. So did the initial Civil Rights movement. It in no way negates the peaceful majority of the group.

Goofle 06-02-2016 01:30 PM

I shouldn't have said "Judge a movement by the actions of it's members" because that's too hard to define. I don't wanna discuss this anyway.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1704274)
You don't support Black Lives Matter who campaigns against, among other things, racial inequality in US prisons, yet you slam the Clinton's over blacks in prison?

*mind blown*

You are a paradox.

Black lives matter is a government funded program. Bruh . It's meant to cause tension, chaos, and outshout people. My grandparents actually stood for something brother. Non compliance through non violence. All lives matter, but reminding people of the things that we went through 30 years ago over and over drilling it into our heads is meant to piss us off enough to start some ****. Our real culture was taken away and we've been given a fake nihilistic culture. How am I a paradox. I am half black and half white, I understand both sides of this argument. And what I don't see from the black side, is a willingness to understand that the choices we make as a culture are holding us back. Not the police, not the politicians, not the white people. We are raised to have a mistrust of whites, because our grandparents told us horror stories. And now it's going so far out there now to where people who are black and support trump get the **** kicked outta them by other black people. It's in fighting. I have been to Africa 2 times brother, and let me tell you, we enslave each other, do horrible things to each other, and one particular time I was there we even resulted in eating one another. Here it's psychological violence we perpetrate against each other for profit. We kill each other. We call our women, bitches, and hoes, we abandon our families, rob each other, and or my favorite loot our own communities when **** happens. And instead of us coming together and being real with one another and talk about this, we continue to destroy ourselves like they want us too. People like Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, who may have actually stood for something in the begining no longer, stand for anything but dat money. Because now they profit off of race baiting and propaganda instead of supporting our men and women getting up and making something of themselves.

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Frownland 06-02-2016 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704349)
Black lives matter is a government funded program. Bruh . It's meant to cause tension, chaos, and outshout people. My grandparents actually stood for something brother. Non compliance through non violence. All lives matter, but reminding people of the things that we went through 30 years ago over and over drilling it into our heads is meant to piss us off enough to start some ****. Our real culture was taken away and we've been given a fake nihilistic culture. How am I a paradox. I am half black and half white, I understand both sides of this argument. And what I don't see from the black side, is a willingness to understand that the choices we make as a culture are holding us back. Not the police, not the politicians, not the white people. We are raised to have a mistrust of whites, because our grandparents told us horror stories. And now it's going so far out there now to where people who are black and support trump get the **** kicked outta them by other black people. It's in fighting. I have been to Africa 2 times brother, and let me tell you, we enslave each other, do horrible things to each other, and one particular time I was there we even resulted in eating one another. Here it's psychological violence we perpetrate against each other for profit. We kill each other. We call our women, bitches, and hoes, we abandon our families, rob each other, and or my favorite loot our own communities when **** happens. And instead of us coming together and being real with one another and talk about this, we continue to destroy ourselves like they want us too. People like Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, who may have actually stood for something in the begining no longer, stand for anything but dat money. Because now they profit off of race baiting and propaganda instead of supporting our men and women getting up and making something of themselves.

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Chula Vista 06-02-2016 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704349)
Black lives matter is a government funded program.

You are 100% wrong right from the get go. You just love interjecting the big bad government any chance you get. It's becoming somewhat predictable for what it's worth.

You might want to expand your thinking beyond Breitbart once in a while.

And stop with the bruh bull****.

You being half white and half black doesn't give you any cred over anyone in regard to understanding anything. Actually playing that card dilutes a lot of what you say. Having both black and white ancestry doesn't automatically give you extra insight on anything.

You keep touting your world experience but some of the **** you post sounds like it's coming from someone who's been living under a ****ing rock for most of their lives.

I'm white. I was raised in Wonder Bread White America to think that blacks and Hispanics are scum and that I should distrust them and be afraid of them. Total ****ing bull****. I would never use that as an excuse or validation for anything I'd post here. You shouldn't either.

Frownland 06-02-2016 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1704355)

You keep touting your world experience but some of the **** you post sounds like it's coming from someone who's been living under a ****ing rock for most of their lives.

Chula, of all people, is telling you this, Roxxy. Maybe it's kind of valid.

RoxyRollah 06-02-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1704355)
You are 100% wrong right from the get go. You just love interjecting the big bad government any chance you get. It's becoming somewhat predictable for what it's worth.

You might want to expand your thinking beyond Breitbart once in a while.

And stop with the bruh bull****.

You being half white and half black doesn't give you any cred over anyone in regard to understanding anything. Actually playing that card dilutes a lot of what you say. Having both black and white ancestry doesn't automatically give you extra insight on anything.

You keep touting your world experience but some of the **** you post sounds like it's coming from someone who's been living under a ****ing rock for most of their lives.

I'm white. I was raised in Wonder Bread White America to think that blacks and Hispanics are scum and that I should distrust them and be afraid of them. Total ****ing bull****. I would never use that as an excuse or validation for anything I'd post here. You shouldn't either.

Don you get so hostile when people disagree with you lately have you noticed that? Im saying I understand both sides of the coin thats all I said. Its not an excuse it was me pointing out the black community isnt ****ing real with itself. These are all my opinions to which Im entitled too and no amount of you angrily pounding on the key pad is gonna make me not say whats in my heart or ****ing head now Im sorry that you don't like my opinions but there aint **** thats gonna make go along with God is dead and America is the land of the free and home of the enslaved. Also our government is propaganziing us and doing things that are illegal out in the open. Its as plain as day. Im sorry but its true. And Im not going to shut up about it because I love my COUNTRY! I love her people The land everything and we're being ram rodded and most people are content to let it happen. Im not. I remember who we were as a ****ing people before 9-11 and I know how we are now. And if you can't see that not just our country but the entire world has taken a turn for the creepy I feel sorry for you.

Chula Vista 06-02-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1704361)
Don you get so hostile when people disagree with you

No hostility at all. Just getting bored trying to debate with walls around this place.

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Also our government is propagandizing us and doing things that are illegal out in the open.
Again with the government. Governments have been doing illegal things and trying to herd the masses since the beginning of time when it was empires instead of governments.

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I remember who we were as a ****ing people before 9-11 and I know how we are now. And if you can't see that not just our country but the entire world has taken a turn for the creepy I feel sorry for you.
Of course the world is different since 9/11. The world also got pretty damn different after Pearl Harbor too. What the hell is your point?

And don't feel sorry for me. You're the one with the tin foil hat and blinders on.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 06-02-2016 03:08 PM

So many walls of text in one thread.


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