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Chula Vista 07-21-2015 10:29 AM

This is pretty nuts. And enlightening.
 
Map shows how religion spread around the world - Business Insider

Crazy!

Frownland 07-21-2015 10:34 AM

Interesting. I barely noticed much of Judaism, I thought it was more widespread?

Chula Vista 07-21-2015 10:37 AM

Crazy how Christianity was pretty much imported to north and south America.

grindy 07-21-2015 10:46 AM

I wish I had a time machine and a sniper rifle.

DwnWthVwls 07-21-2015 10:49 AM

I'm interested to know what's with the hinduism section in South America(Brazil maybe?).

Cool find Chula. Thanks.

Janszoon 07-21-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1617598)
Interesting. I barely noticed much of Judaism, I thought it was more widespread?

It's not that large of a religion relatively speaking.

Lisnaholic 07-21-2015 07:10 PM

Yes, that's very interesting, Chula - a lot of information to take in. I didn't notice anything for atheism in Soviet Russia, so I think I might watch it one more time.

Here are some stats about world religions, a bit old but I don't suppose the proportions have changed much:-

Christianity: 954 million
Islam : 538 million
Hinduism: 524 million
Buddhism: 249 million
Judaism: 14 million

So Janszoon is right, statistically Judaism is really small. None the less, as H.G.Wells pointed out, it's very significant in terms of human evolution. According to him it was the first time in world history that a big cultural group were held together, not by the territory they owned, but by an idea. Their god didn't conquer countries, but he was there, in a book and in their heads. Maybe that' s why it's still counted as one of the big five today.

Chula Vista 07-21-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1617694)
Yes, that's very interesting, Chula - a lot of information to take in.

Again, the mind blower for me was how quickly the entire continents of North and South America found Jesus. Equal parts the Spanish Inquisition and the influx of European immigrants.

How different would the world be today if not for that?

Lisnaholic 07-21-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1617709)
Again, the mind blower for me was how quickly the entire continents of North and South America found Jesus. Equal parts the Spanish Inquisition and the influx of European immigrants.

^ Yes, also striking is how Christianity only turned up in California and Alaska at the end of the sequence.

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How different would the world be today if not for that?
^ Well, here in Mexico, our Sundays just wouldn't be the same:-


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Chula Vista 07-21-2015 07:50 PM

:rofl:

Ok, that's was freaking hilarious.

Lisnaholic 07-22-2015 05:22 AM

Thanks, Chula! I wonder what strange Native American ceremonies you' d be up to in California. Probably eating hallucinagenic mushrooms and smoking strange herbs - but wait a minute, you guys do that anyway, right?

Janszoon 07-22-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1617694)
Yes, that's very interesting, Chula - a lot of information to take in. I didn't notice anything for atheism in Soviet Russia, so I think I might watch it one more time.

Here are some stats about world religions, a bit old but I don't suppose the proportions have changed much:-

Christianity: 954 million
Islam : 538 million
Hinduism: 524 million
Buddhism: 249 million
Judaism: 14 million

This is the breakdown from Wikipedia:

Christianity: 2.2 billion
Islam: 1.6 billion
Nonreligious/Unaffiliated : 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 1 billion
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
Ethnic religions: 300 million
African traditional religions: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic (Post 1617694)
So Janszoon is right, statistically Judaism is really small. None the less, as H.G.Wells pointed out, it's very significant in terms of human evolution. According to him it was the first time in world history that a big cultural group were held together, not by the territory they owned, but by an idea. Their god didn't conquer countries, but he was there, in a book and in their heads. Maybe that' s why it's still counted as one of the big five today.

I think Wells is way off base with that claim. It's not like Judaism was the first religion. It wasn't even the first monotheistic religion. I think more likely the reason for its significance in the modern world is that it birthed the two largest religions on the planet.

John Wilkes Booth 07-22-2015 10:41 PM

the jews are like the little engine that could... no matter what history threw at them, be it persian, roman or greek conquest... or medieval antisemitic purges... or a tyrannical dictator that explicitly seeks to exterminate them... they somehow survive

that's why they're in there

judaism > christianity + islam combined imo

Lisnaholic 07-23-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1618133)
the jews are like the little engine that could... no matter what history threw at them, be it persian, roman or greek conquest... or medieval antisemitic purges... or a tyrannical dictator that explicitly seeks to exterminate them... they somehow survive

that's why they're in there

^ That seems to bear out what H.G.Wells was saying, but on mature reflection, as they say, I'm more inclined to agree with Janszoon:-

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I think Wells is way off base with that claim. It's not like Judaism was the first religion. It wasn't even the first monotheistic religion. I think more likely the reason for its significance in the modern world is that it birthed the two largest religions on the planet
I think H.G.Wells was making a comparison between things like pharaoh worship, which didn't survive outside Egypt and was therefore primitive, and Judaism, which could survive as an intellectual idea anywhere. But it's always risky to make sweeping generalizations about history and I think H.G.Wells was underestimating the significance of early religions. Also, if it comes to cultures surviving without a physical homeland, I suspect that the gypsies moving out of India may predate Judaism.

Thanks for updating the world religion stats:-

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1617950)
This is the breakdown from Wikipedia:

Christianity: 2.2 billion
Islam: 1.6 billion
Nonreligious/Unaffiliated : 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 1 billion
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
Ethnic religions: 300 million
African traditional religions: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
.

What is "Juche", I wonder!?


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