The mathematical Impossibility of Evolution

Blank. · 07-05-2016, 04:17 PM

So I was reading the book Breathless by Dean Koontz recently. I came across a portion in it where he talks about the mathematical impossibility of evolution. Decided to research the topic off which he spoke about. I came across this article.

The Mathematical Impossibility Of Evolution | The Institute for Creation Research

Zhanteimi · 07-05-2016, 05:27 PM

Great merciful bloodstained gods! Here we go.

Aloysius · 07-05-2016, 06:17 PM

This article shows a very poor understanding of science. "No one has ever actually observed a genuine mutation occurring in the natural environment which was beneficial" - this is utterly false. It's easiest to observe in viruses and bacteria, mostly because their generation time span is so short, making the whole process quicker. In mammals the time scales are obviously much bigger, but we can see the process in terms of current environmental fitness - people from warmer climates having darker skin being an obvious example. His example of a 200 part system is absurd - of course the chance of getting any given combination is vanishingly small. But evolution is not heading toward any one specific combination - every step of the way there are many mutations that may give that organism an advantage.

The Batlord · 07-05-2016, 06:55 PM

And don't forget that the Earth is apparently ten billion-years-old.

Neapolitan · 07-05-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And don't forget that the Earth is apparently ten billion-years-old.

So what does that prove? The sun is 4.5 billion years old. Just because a space object is old doesn't make evolution more probable or possible. If that was the case there would be futuristic aliens living on the sun walking around in bathing suites, laying on the beaches of the sun trying to get a tan.

DeadChannel · 07-05-2016, 09:14 PM

I had no idea you were this far gone.

**Frownland** · 07-05-2016, 09:18 PM

The Institute for Creation Research strikes me as one of the finer and least biased sources you can find on evolutionary matters.

Blank. · 07-05-2016, 09:21 PM

Well the pro evolution sites are not going to post something that is objectively unbiased. And granted, this site isn't either, but it was the least biased without being too bad about it. Most other sites were like this is dumb and you're dumb for researching it.

**Frownland** · 07-05-2016, 09:24 PM

Well...

Blank. · 07-05-2016, 09:25 PM

Well, what?

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Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	The mathematical Impossibility of Evolution So I was reading the book Breathless by Dean Koontz recently. I came across a portion in it where he talks about the mathematical impossibility of evolution. Decided to research the topic off which he spoke about. I came across this article. The Mathematical Impossibility Of Evolution \| The Institute for Creation Research

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	The Institute for Creation Research strikes me as one of the finer and least biased sources you can find on evolutionary matters. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Well... __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-05-2016, 06:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Aloysius Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 351	This article shows a very poor understanding of science. "No one has ever actually observed a genuine mutation occurring in the natural environment which was beneficial" - this is utterly false. It's easiest to observe in viruses and bacteria, mostly because their generation time span is so short, making the whole process quicker. In mammals the time scales are obviously much bigger, but we can see the process in terms of current environmental fitness - people from warmer climates having darker skin being an obvious example. His example of a 200 part system is absurd - of course the chance of getting any given combination is vanishingly small. But evolution is not heading toward any one specific combination - every step of the way there are many mutations that may give that organism an advantage.

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DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	I had no idea you were this far gone.

07-05-2016, 09:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	Well the pro evolution sites are not going to post something that is objectively unbiased. And granted, this site isn't either, but it was the least biased without being too bad about it. Most other sites were like this is dumb and you're dumb for researching it.

07-05-2016, 09:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,034	Well, what?