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DeadChannel 07-01-2016 06:46 PM

As much as I'm usually on board with ****ting on America, this seems like an arbitrary, lazy excuse to not interact with whatever arguments he might have.

Zhanteimi 07-01-2016 06:47 PM

Maybe William has seen this:


The Batlord 07-01-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1715966)
Nope, I'm afraid that doesn't work. We are talking about a specific topic in which the legislative and demographic changes are notably different. Besides I have relatives in the U.S. live two hours out of Seattle, travel their regularly as well as being your next door neighbor and biggest trading partner. More than qualified.

As I've stated though before, I'm afraid I must disengage from this topic but I'm happy to discuss American politics for you, though I doubt there would be much controversy as I have already pledged my allegiance to Hillary.



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So how are you qualified to talk about England?

Neapolitan 07-01-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1715948)
Apologies for not proofreading, but you win an argument by bringing forth credible evidence and stats, not by knit picking at someone's vocabulary, and hurling insults.

Anyways I don't want to argue with Americans on this topic, you're too far removed from it to fully comprehend the complexity of the issue. Come back to me in 10 20 years. :)

I would be happy to discuss American politics with you though,Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and possibly Warren?

I remember when I first joined Music Banter. It was my first real contact with British peoples. When I joined I was still under the impression that the women wore petticoats and bonnets, the men went fox hunting on horse back and they played lawn skittles, and croquet. I must confess that most of the information I got was off of Genesis albums. Needless to I was brought up to speed. Are there British who fear if they exit the EU another leader like an Oliver Cromwell could rise to power?

The Batlord 07-01-2016 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1715970)
I remember when I first joined Music Banter. It was my first real contact with British peoples. When I joined I was still under the impression that the women wore petticoats and bonnets, the men went fox hunting on horse back and they played lawn skittles, and croquet. I must confess that most of the information I got was off of Genesis albums. Needless to I was brought up to speed. Are there British who fear if they exit the EU another leader like an Oliver Cromwell could rise to power?

lol

William_the_Bloody 07-01-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadChannel (Post 1715967)
As much as I'm usually on board with ****ting on America, this seems like an arbitrary, lazy excuse to not interact with whatever arguments he might have.

Lol, I'm just fu(king with him. I thought it would be funny to experiment with seeing if I could get someone excluded from the conversation.

I like Frownland but politics is a deeply divisive subject, and it especially causes resentment between people on forums, I'm not an ideologue though, so I take everything with a grain of salt, and don't get upset by it.

Truth be told, I got on here to talk about cars, so I hope to get back to that soon.

Frownland 07-01-2016 07:30 PM

I find it delightful how seriously I'm taken sometimes.

Neapolitan 07-01-2016 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1715974)
I find it delightful how seriously I'm taken sometimes.

I don't know whether or not to take you serious about you finding it delightful. https://doberman-chat.com/styles/def...cratchhead.gif

William_the_Bloody 07-01-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1715974)
I find it delightful how seriously I'm taken sometimes.

Lol, so do I, so there you go, cheers.

Janszoon 07-01-2016 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1715945)
Sorry about that, I was out looking at cars.



Interesting.

https://data.oecd.org/migration/fore...population.htm

My perception does jive with reality as a Canadian, but not as a Brit, which is why arguments should remain evidenced based as opposed to what I see on my driving tours to the United States. However enough to raise my eyebrow, but not enough to change my opinion, consider the following.

1) Hispanics which make up the majority of foreign born in the United States are westernized people of Catholic background.

I had already mentioned that I don't view the Hispanic population of the United States to enter into the multicultural debate because they are already westernized people of predominantly Catholic heritage.

The United Kingdom & western Europe have been taking in large amounts of immigrants from non westernized countries and the problems are beginning to show....throughout Europe with repeated sex crimes and terrorist attacks.

2)`The United Kingdom has seen a dramatic spike in the number of foreign born citizens, as mentioned under the rule of the labour party

https://s32.postimg.org/j63bjn2kx/Uk_foreign_born.png

3) Geography

United States: 9.857 million km²
United Kingdom: 243,610 km²

That is a massive difference in terms of relative space and available resources, While the United States there is available space for everyone to spread out, in the UK things are much more compacted.

and before you go pointing Canada, 80% of us are huddled along the southern border because it's so frickin cold and inhabitable in much of our country.

4) The legislative policy of multiculturalism & political correctness

As to my knowledge multiculturalism has not been legislatively implemented as official policy in the United States. Traditionally (though you've ceased enforcing it) the US has been based on the melting pot.

There is ample evidence that multiculturalism in Europe is creating segregated communities that do not assimilate, and allow for young people to be easily infiltrated by competing ideologies

Radicalised Muslims in UK more likely to be born in Britain, rich and depressed | UK Politics | News | The Independent

and that's not even going into the Human Rights Commissions which are a whole other can of worms in themselves.

No you're a right of center country, I stand by what I said, your at least a decade behind this issue in comparison to Canada & the UK.



Those are some serious contortions you're going through there. Not sure why you keep bringing Canada into a conversation about the Brexit though. The only reason I have even said anything about the US was because you wanted to bring that up too.


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