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Old 05-22-2016, 08:03 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Did someone in this thread say He was?
no. i wasn't replying to anyone. just saying.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:06 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I would hope most people know this.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:07 PM   #83 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:09 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:13 PM   #85 (permalink)
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okay. i guess there's no reason to believe he was real.
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Old 05-22-2016, 08:33 PM   #86 (permalink)
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While I appreciate objective and non-partisan perspectives I think the reality is so extreme and the evidence so plain that it is a disservice to oneself and to our global culture to deny that the damaging media bias is very real.

The Republican platform of misogyny, racism, homophobia, blind nationalism, Christian Fundamentalism, fear mongering, hate speech, anti-immigration, anti-minority, xenophobia, anti-choice, bigotry, religious intolerance, anti-social justice, anti-education, and corporate favoritism is celebrated and endorsed by propaganda networks of the established print and broadcast monopolies.

The Democratic National Convention is equally corrupt with its funneling of billions of corporate dollars into ensuring that national broadcast coverage exclusively celebrates their chosen puppet despite overwhelming evidence of her decades of federal crimes.

Corporate personhood was the nail in the coffin of our republic. The plutocracy is very real.

The polls showing 46% of voters identifying as unaffiliated is the citizens' reaction to a broadcast media and a political party which ignores their voice.
I try to balance where I get my news from, because (and it probably all goes without saying) the media is bias. I listen to Rush Limbaugh and others on occasion. Some of those either affiliate with the Right while others claim to be neutral. Wherever they stand, they claim to search for the unbiased truth in reporting the news. None of the consersavative talk show hosts and none of the listening audience view themselves as you described. In fact they they see themselves as furthering equality among various ethnic group. They have Ann Hart Coulter and Sarah Louise Palin going for them so they probably don't see themselves as "misogynists." The conservative even include Araminta Ross as one of their own. And they don't see themselves dominating the news i.e. "propaganda networks of the established print and broadcast monopolies." Rather they see themselves as a minority in the media. I don't know if it is an hyperbole for comical effect but Rush says that "99% of the news is controlled by Liberals."
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I try to balance where I get my news from, because (and it probably all goes without saying) the media is bias. I listen to Rush Limbaugh and others on occasion. Some of those either affiliate with the Right while others claim to be neutral. Wherever they stand, they claim to search for the unbiased truth in reporting the news. None of the consersavative talk show hosts and none of the listening audience view themselves as you described. In fact they they see themselves as furthering equality among various ethnic group. They have Ann Hart Coulter and Sarah Louise Palin going for them so they probably don't see themselves as "misogynists." The conservative even include Araminta Ross as one of their own. And they don't see themselves dominating the news i.e. "propaganda networks of the established print and broadcast monopolies." Rather they see themselves as a minority in the media. I don't know if it is an hyperbole for comical effect but Rush says that "99% of the news is controlled by Liberals."
I've found that, quite reliably, comedians provide the most transparent perspective of the news. Chris Philpott wrote a short piece titled, The relationship between comedy and truth where he states:
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This is in part what contributed to the success of The Daily Show in the Jon Stewart years. I was hard pressed to find a "real" news source more informative than the "fake news" of Stewart and his team. They (deservedly) mocked the right, and when opportunities arose, criticized the left as well. But I took away a greater understanding of the stories from each Daily Show report than I could ever hope to glean from network news.

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An oversimplified summary of these mythical origins is offered in the Zeitgeist documentary. There are select inaccuracies among their statements, but the overall principle of astrological origin and the shared elements of so many of the world's religions stands to illustrate the general concept.

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Pre-Christian hero myths are signposts to Jesus Christ, because He, as the Word, the second person of the Trinity, has always existed, since time itself was created.
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Can't argue with that. No, seriously, you can't argue with that. There's nothing logical to refute.
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He took human form at a certain time in the history of our cosmos, but He has always existed. He is God.
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