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Well bad answers will have that effect. I'm not sure what's surprising or of note here.

This is akin to me stating that Donald Trump is a terrible businessman. And you saying no he's not, let me give you a few Donald Trump quotes to prove my point.

Chula you asked a question that I am incapable of answering you. But you know that you loaded the question so that it reinforces your beliefs that hes not there. Thats your prerogative.

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No, it's a bunch of garbage from what is literally one of the most corrupt organizations in the history of humanity. At least Trump's bullshit has only lasted a few measly decades instead of century upon century upon century.

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So what allowed a small group of people rewriting the bible throughout history to serve political means isn't corrupt? Hmm. Maybe you don't know what corrupt means.

I said the magisterium is garbage, it's the organization that perpetuates it that's corrupt.

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Wait ok so Im protestant... Am I wrong in thinking there was a pope between John Paul II and Benedict the Nazi.like didnt one quit....only one in 600 years am I crazier than normal.

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I know what the magisterium is, thanks. That's why I specified that it's garbage while the Catholic Church itself is one of humanity's most corrupt organizations. It's always astonishing to me that anyone would defend it, but obviously a lot of people have and do, that's how it perpetuates itself. I do find it kind of hilarious when the indoctrinated try to "educate" me about the biggest and most powerful denomination of the biggest and most powerful religion on earth as if I've never heard if it though. So by all means continue.

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As in brainwashed and closeminded to anything that threatens your religion.

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Adults are just as likely to be brainwashed into a cult as any other age group. Try again.

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Oh ok, so your post was just a random comment directed at no one. Got it.

I'll try to think of a better word for it for you, but I really do think garbage is the most appropriate one.

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Aw he can't handle sarcasm. I'm sorry that I'm too funny for you mate. Don't expect me to pat you on the back for bad posts though.

I'd describe it as the civilization destroying, power grabbing, money sucking, child raping cult you so dearly love, but to each their own.

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Shout Amen!

People are what organizations are made up of and people are what make those organizations the way they are. This particular organization has had an incredibly long run of horrible behavior with a very far reach and hence it is one of the worst. The pillars it props itself up on are garbage and its source material is filled with atrocity and horror. Paint the monster with pretty colors and decorate it with flowers all you want, but it's still a monster you're defending.

He retired.....quit damnit!

Preach!!!

Trump has made it into the argument about religion. I knew this thread was moving south but....damn.

Really? Is that why they covered up all that child abuse?

Wanna wager whether mordwyr has seen, or plans on seeing the movie Spotlight?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual...cese_of_Boston

And a few other whoppers. You can put lipstick on a pig......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathol...al_abuse_cases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_...ses_by_country

And these people's actions do in fact invalidate the Magisterium. As does The Crusades and The Spanish Inquisition.

To say no, and to ignore this sure reeks of being brainwashed, or at the very least having complete and utter blind faith that's devoid of any logic or reason.

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So why hasn't the Pope led a purge of the Catholic church to root out all of the corruption and nepotism that led to these cover ups?

True, those individuals are part of the collection of individuals that have made the Catholic Church such an awful organization for ages, while the magisterium is just the nonsense that the awful organization uses to justify its horrible actions.

Ah but you see, they're different. Look inside and you will find the answer. Don't look outside or use the Internet though, that'll only get you bad answers.

What kind of retarded Dungeons and Dragons word is that?

I looked inside god's vagina, wasn't in there.

There is a distinct difference between systemic issues and individuals acting out. Sure, you can say that any individual instance of abuse or cover-ups is on the individuals who did those things, but at what point do you face up to the fact that the whole system is rotten and corrupt?

Again, actions don't happen in a vacuum. Considering that these types of things occured far more often in the church than in the rest of life, and considering that people in high up positions would have had to cover abuse up, I think it's safe to say that there's some particular factor within the church to blame.

At what point would you think that corruption had occured? Does the Pope himself have to know about it in order for there to be a problem?

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*takes shot*