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William_the_Bloody 09-06-2016 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1740953)
Marco Rubio can't even make his way through the Republican primaries, How the hell is he going to win the 2020 election?

Get real sir.

No establishment candidate made it through the primaries this year because the party's grass roots supporters were in full revolt, but when Trump loses (the corporate media & wall street are working very hard to ensure he does) they will bring the revolt to a heel & bring in their preferred neo liberal candidate for 2020.

Marco Rubio is one of their golden boys, and he's well liked amongst Hispanic voters much like George Bush. A Rubio/Kasich ticket is wall streets wet dream. What do you think is going to happen when you have a senator and a governor from the two most important electoral swing states on the same ticket together?

Either way whoever wins the next Republican primary will handily beat Hillary Clinton. she is extremely corrupt, and has some of the lowest popularity ratings we've ever seen in a Presidential candidate. If Trump wins, he's most likely a 4 term President ruled by a Democratic senate, but more importantly, he pushes the Republican Party further to the left than it has been since the 70's. If Clinton wins, she pushes the Democrat Party further to the right and you get neo liberal light for 4 years, followed by hardcore neo liberalism under a Republican for eight.

Ask yourself this, why is wall street & Goldman Sachs lining up to support Hillary over a Republican candidate? and why are true blue labour union supporters actually considering voting for Trump?

Frownland 09-06-2016 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1741435)

Ask yourself this, why is wall street & Goldman Sachs lining up to support Hillary over a Republican candidate?

Dude, she gives some pretty incredible speeches.

Justthefacts 09-06-2016 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1738239)
lol. Good one.

It's true. A whistleblower told me.

William_the_Bloody 09-06-2016 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1741436)
Dude, she gives some pretty incredible speeches.

So I've heard, if only she would release the transcripts.

At the end of the day I'm for whoever brings up the wage of the average American, which is why I'm pro union. I believe that unions force non union competitors to offer a better wage to keep good employees.

Whoever brings up the wages for you and the Batlord & increases your life expectency and personal freedom of a shorter work week gets my vote. (Assuming your not brokers)

Hillary and Bill Clinton are corporate sell outs, the United States already has one party owned by corporate lobbyists, does it really need two?

Frownland 09-06-2016 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1741445)

Hillary and Bill Clinton are corporate sell outs, the United States already has one party owned by corporate lobbyists, does it really need two?

???

Isn't it on both sides (see: global warming)?

William_the_Bloody 09-06-2016 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1741446)
???

Isn't it on both sides (see: global warming)?

Yes your right on that one...not really my issue of expertise, but unfortunately one party seems to be ignoring the scientific consensus.

Frownland 09-07-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody (Post 1741448)
Yes your right on that one...not really my issue of expertise, but unfortunately one party seems to be ignoring the scientific consensus.

Well, that happens on both sides too. American liberals tend to love a lot of the new age anti-science stances like being anti-GMO, anti-vaxx, pro-complementary and alternative medicine (I have a trillion and a half science based articles on this aspect of bullshit that delves into both the falsity of these methods and psychological theory about those who love to chow down on purified feces if anyone's interested), pro-naturalism, and against everything that even sounds like the M(onsanto) word.

American conservatives tend to have more traditional anti-science beliefs (well, except for maybe vaccination, which they usually find themselves on the right side of the issue) like the denial of global warming, evolution, and the fact that humans occasionally get horny enough to **** as a way to directly spit in the face of the almighty blame shifter.

William_the_Bloody 09-07-2016 12:08 AM

Anyways my point is Hillary couldn't possibly push the Democratic Party in a more right leaning direction, while Trump is pushing the Republican Party in a left wing direction because he's primarily appealing to working class voters.

If Trump were to try and privatize social security or medicaid it would be game over for his political career, which is why conservatives like Glen Beck & powerful interests on wall street hate him. They want to privatize it.

The big issue though is Trump's anti free trade rhetoric. Wall Street is spooked that they won't be able to offshore American jobs away without a consequence, which is why they're lobbying against him. Unfortunately unlike Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, Hillary's bought and paid for by the big banks, She'll sign the Trans Pacific Partnership within her first term.

I can't vote but if I were an American I'd park mine.

William_the_Bloody 09-07-2016 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1741450)
Well, that happens on both sides too. American liberals tend to love a lot of the new age anti-science stances like anti-GMO, anti-vaxx, pro-complementary and alternative medicines (I have a trillion and a half science based articles on this aspect of bullshit that delves into both the falsity of it and psychological theory behind it's proponents if anyone's interested), pro-naturalism, and against everything that even sounds like the M(onsanto) word.

American conservatives tend to have more traditional anti-science beliefs (well, except for maybe vaccination, which they rightly tend to be in favour of) like the denial of global warming, evolution, and the fact that humans occasionally get horny enough to **** as a way to directly spit in the face of the almighty blame shifter.

Gotcha. Anyways I got a book, getting up early for work, cheers.

Goofle 09-07-2016 05:23 AM

Anyone else hate the term "working class"?


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