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Frownland 02-12-2017 06:09 PM

Well y'all are pretty mainstream for a counterculture is all I'm saying and I think that's pretty obvious.

Lucem Ferre 02-12-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805073)
Not exactly. People's privately held beliefs don't always find themselves into wider culture. Hence why so many people assumed Hillary had it in the bag.

People thought she had it in the bag because she was going against Trump, not because she was going against a conservative.

elphenor 02-12-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805068)
So my point made sense. People arguing that Soros is evil shouldn't automatically be ignored because there's some evil guy on "their side". Can we not fight back against both at the same time?

but you realize it's about a mile off of what the point of discussion was right

so much so that I couldn't even tell if you were talking about Soros tbh

Anteater 02-12-2017 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1805072)
But I pointed out already he consistently donates to Republicans as well

He bet on the candidate he thought would win, that's why he gave to Hillary

Just another guy with so much money he has nothing left to buy but politicians

1. No he doesn't. Some executives from a hedge fund he founded donated around 36 thousand to Republicans (such as Paul Ryan) who were in opposition to Donald Trump. Soros himself doesn't spend money on organizations that are in conflict with his globalist POV.

2. Agreed: guys like him are an underlying problem with the political system that we have, along with the Koch Brothers.

Goofle 02-12-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1805076)
but you realize it's about a mile off of what the point of discussion was right

so much so that I couldn't even tell if you were talking about Soros tbh

What is the grand point I was missing then? I'm happy to say I misunderstood the point (I think I may have already done that). But I mean, we were obviously discussing Soros so it seems kinda sillyto pretend you didn't know I was talking about him.

Janszoon 02-12-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805066)
Anti-abortion, anti-welfare state, anti-Obamacare, BUILD A WALL, Nationalism, lowering taxes etc. there's more, but the point is that there's a difference of opinion between certain elements of the right and certain elements of the left. One is considered to be the norm (the left) and one is relatively against what we see reported in the media (the right).

We have to speak in generalities of course.

Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

Goofle 02-12-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1805079)
Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

Well yes, we are far more left over here unfortunately. It's crazy actually. But I think it's rather obvious to me as somebody who watches the USA quite closely that you seem to have a heavily left media establishment, which doesn't really represent the overall values of the country.

Frownland 02-12-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1805079)
Maybe that's true in the UK, I don't know. But if you're trying to apply that to the US, I have to say you don't really understand this country.

Obamacare and American nationalism are two huge topics in the U.K. :D.

Frownland 02-12-2017 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1805080)
Well yes, we are far more left over here unfortunately. It's crazy actually. But I think it's rather obvious to me as somebody who watches the USA quite closely that you seem to have a heavily left media establishment, which doesn't really represent the overall values of the country.

You'd be ignoring the American media on the right that panders just as hard (they feed a lot into this counterculture idea and it's still bunk).

Goofle 02-12-2017 06:23 PM

The argument isn't that there's not partisanship on the right. It's that the vast majority of media leans left. Stay on track.


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