What Did President Trump Do Now?

Chula Vista · 05-19-2017, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Also if Muller being insulted about his buddy or his relationship with Comey affects the outcome of the case, he should be fired too because that's the exact opposite of how justice works.

Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

Trump admits he fires Comey specifically because of the Russia probe. On a scale of 1 to 10, how's that sit on your justice scale?

**Frownland** · 05-19-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Of course. Speaking of Justice, how about commenting on the actual content of the bombshell instead of focusing on who published it.

I can't confirm an anonymous leak. That's actually the main reason why I think they should have chosen a better outlet if they are genuine.

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“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”

The American official could be Kathy Davis for all I know. I'm just saying don't put all of your money on this horse just yet.

**Frownland** · 05-19-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

NYT has a corporate and pro-establishment bias that's inherent in the very way media works in the 21st century

The partisanship is really the result of the right moving way outside the lines

It's a result $$$$, hands down. Who has time for nuance or subtlety? Just tell me what I already know, journalist dorks.

Chula Vista · 05-19-2017, 02:12 PM

Sean Spicer released a statement where he didn't deny what Trump said at all. He can't. It's an official record at this point.

His spin is that it's all about Trump trying to build up relations with Russia, and that the leak itself is the big story.

Obstruction of Justice is lurking around the corner.

And now Trump is on this huge overseas junket and he's going to have to be dealing with reporters shouting out questions about Russia rather than what he wants the visit to be about.

Numerous talking heads are saying there's going to be some very tense meetings behind closed doors with the officials he's meeting with over what's gone down the past 10 days and how much they can trust Trump and his administration.

**Frownland** · 05-19-2017, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Spicer

By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia’s actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia. The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations.

Meh, it could potentially be a weapon but it's no smoking gun.

Chula Vista · 05-19-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

"I just fired the FBI director. He was crazy, a real nut job. I was under great pressure over the Russian probe. This will ease that."

Read it again.

**Frownland** · 05-19-2017, 02:31 PM

Hearsay =/= smoking gun

Like, ever.

There's no reason to believe that it's true and equally no reason to believe that it isn't. I'm just so sick of the media breathlessly repeating things without verifying them just because it makes Trump or whoever they don't like look bad.

**Exo** · 05-19-2017, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Nut Job?

That's very offensive!

Anteater · 05-19-2017, 02:53 PM

I'm even more skeptical of the media than I am of Trump. You see far right conservative news sources using anonymous sources all the time, and they are rightfully discredited. Why should the NYT get a pass just because they're setting the agenda? They played a part in creating Trump...but the genie isn't going back in the bottle. Time to up your game MSM...

Chula Vista · 05-19-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I'm even more skeptical of the media than I am of Trump.

Funny how Trump's "fake news" strategy has taken hold with so many people.

Why did Spicer not call the NYT's story "fake news"? How come he didn't deny it? Like I said, it's already an official record. The note takers aren't the leakers. It's once it's made official and circulated that someone in the Washington belt decides to hand it over. Everyone I've been listening to the past few hours agrees on this. On both sides.

There's people within the administration covering their asses right now as not to be found complicit later down the road.

No one in The White House wants to become part of the Trumpgate Seven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_Seven

05-19-2017, 02:12 PM	#4904 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Sean Spicer released a statement where he didn't deny what Trump said at all. He can't. It's an official record at this point. His spin is that it's all about Trump trying to build up relations with Russia, and that the leak itself is the big story. Obstruction of Justice is lurking around the corner. And now Trump is on this huge overseas junket and he's going to have to be dealing with reporters shouting out questions about Russia rather than what he wants the visit to be about. Numerous talking heads are saying there's going to be some very tense meetings behind closed doors with the officials he's meeting with over what's gone down the past 10 days and how much they can trust Trump and his administration. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

05-19-2017, 02:31 PM	#4907 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	Hearsay =/= smoking gun Like, ever. There's no reason to believe that it's true and equally no reason to believe that it isn't. I'm just so sick of the media breathlessly repeating things without verifying them just because it makes Trump or whoever they don't like look bad. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x