Political Discussions for "Adults"

The Batlord · 08-05-2022, 07:46 PM

So rich guys using their platforms for political advocacy is the way forward? Jesus, dude, just get over being dumped already.

music_collector · 08-05-2022, 08:35 PM

It's not the way forward. It's just the way it is right now.

SGR · 08-05-2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So rich guys using their platforms for political advocacy is the way forward? Jesus, dude, just get over being dumped already.

Elph is sounding more like a Destiny fan than a Vaush fan these days...

The Batlord · 08-05-2022, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

when was the last time you hit up a DSA meeting?

And? I'm a recluse. I'm sure if I was a famous rich guy I'd still get to have political relevance. Are you just going to admit you gave up on socialism and now you're just a snearing lib so everyone who always knew you were one in the first place can say "I told you so?" or are just gonna keep being a bitch?

~~jwb~~ · 08-06-2022, 01:32 AM

Just admit you don't actually believe in the cause that much but have attached yourself to it for a sense of purpose and identity. Instead of making stupid excuses like the world is on fire and I would help but social anxiety.... Just admit the real reason is because you know deep down joining the DSA will almost certainly make no difference.

The Batlord · 08-06-2022, 01:53 AM

Yeah the cause is looking kinda bleak atm but I also agree with the goals and principles and don't require immediate results in order to not go full nihilism like some neo-fascists I know.

~~jwb~~ · 08-06-2022, 01:56 AM

So incrementalism, then?

The Batlord · 08-06-2022, 02:13 AM

Nah, hold the line till the rubber band snaps and more radical options become possible. The George Floyd protests were an example of this where the spark didn't quite catch.

~~jwb~~ · 08-06-2022, 09:22 AM

Hold the line by doing nothing until eventually **** changes and we can do something?

The 2020 protests probably wouldn't have gotten as big as they did without the pandemic and the special climate that created.

It sounds like you are basically saying stand back and stand by until there's a chance for revolution, which sounds like the perfect way to rationalize the fact that you run around here screaming like the world is about to end and the GOP is going to do another Holocaust but aren't even remotely motivated to do anything about it.

The Batlord · 08-06-2022, 10:44 AM

And the French Revolution might never have happened the way it did if there hadn't been a famine. Evolving conditions allow for new possibilities.

08-05-2022, 08:35 PM	#9832 (permalink)
music_collector Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 757	It's not the way forward. It's just the way it is right now.

08-06-2022, 01:32 AM	#9835 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Just admit you don't actually believe in the cause that much but have attached yourself to it for a sense of purpose and identity. Instead of making stupid excuses like the world is on fire and I would help but social anxiety.... Just admit the real reason is because you know deep down joining the DSA will almost certainly make no difference.

08-06-2022, 01:56 AM	#9837 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	So incrementalism, then?

08-06-2022, 09:22 AM	#9839 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Hold the line by doing nothing until eventually **** changes and we can do something? The 2020 protests probably wouldn't have gotten as big as they did without the pandemic and the special climate that created. It sounds like you are basically saying stand back and stand by until there's a chance for revolution, which sounds like the perfect way to rationalize the fact that you run around here screaming like the world is about to end and the GOP is going to do another Holocaust but aren't even remotely motivated to do anything about it.