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Cuthbert 10-28-2017 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1888408)
To quote a DDL movie: "There will be blood." :( Spanish are fascists, plain and simple.

What other option is there but to offer a legal, binding referendum with a promise that whatever the outcome is, the Spanish government will act in line with that?

The Batlord 10-28-2017 11:21 AM

And no, tyranny is not synonymous with fascism. Fascism is a specific political system with policies that can be kind of nebulous at times due to its half-baked nature, but it's still not just another word for a dictatorship.

OccultHawk 10-28-2017 11:26 AM

Laugh all you want but Calexit is coming.

rubber soul 10-28-2017 11:39 AM

Wanna hear a conspiracy theory? The Spanish Civil War preceded World War II. If this turns into the second Spanish Civil War and with the saber rattlings of Putin, Trump, etc., could this be a forebearer of World War III?

Goofle 10-28-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1888542)
Laugh all you want but Calexit is coming.

Isn’t California up there with the most subsidised and non self sufficient states in the US? If so, good luck with that.

I’d be all for it anyway.

OccultHawk 10-28-2017 11:49 AM

Which side would Trump and Putin take? Or would they just stir **** up at random for the **** of it?

rubber soul 10-28-2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1888551)
Isn’t California up there with the most subsidised and non self sufficient states in the US? If so, good luck with that.

I’d be all for it anyway.

California is also about fifteen percent of the US economy. A Calexit would not be good for America's economic interests.

OccultHawk 10-28-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1888551)
Isn’t California up there with the most subsidised and non self sufficient states in the US? If so, good luck with that.

I’d be all for it anyway.

I think California would be in the G8.

rubber soul 10-28-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1888552)
Which side would Trump and Putin take? Or would they just stir **** up at random for the **** of it?

Good question. My guess is Trump wouldn't give two cents since he's fixated on North Korea. Putin appears to want to bring back the old Soviet Union so I would guess he'd back the nationalist Spain like the rest of Europe at the moment. I'm just seeing a bad parallel from a historical standpoint when it was Franco's Nationalists against the Left-wing Republicans (talk about an oxymoron). Hitler and Mussolini sided with Franco while other governments officially stayed neutral while private citizens would fight with the Republicans mostly. It didn't lead to World War II directly but it was a period of global unrest not unlike today. It's pretty scary stuff to think about.

OccultHawk 10-28-2017 12:33 PM

Elph and I have discussed it a little from our varying anarchist perspectives.


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