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Key 12-18-2018 08:17 PM

Nah. I don't agree with that at all. That's a very skewed way to look at your self worth. I'm not gonna get paid the same as someone that does a worse job than I do.

DwnWthVwls 12-18-2018 08:17 PM

Yes, Ki. Trophies for everyone!

Key 12-18-2018 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2025750)
Yes, Ki. Trophies for everyone!

Literally the opposite of my point.

DwnWthVwls 12-18-2018 08:19 PM

Fine, i'll take your trophy if you don't want it.

Also, people are generally not fit to make value assessments about their own work compared to others. It's pretty well established psychology that we are way overconfident.

What's hilarious about this entire conversation is that Elph thinks by leveling the wages that wealth just goes away. People will always barter for services rather its with money, favors, commodities, or material possessions. It is inevitable that some people will make good trades and end up with more resources aka "buying power" than others, regardless of the system. *snowball starts rolling*. Conversely, others will make terrible trades and end up losing buying power. This isn't some utopian future where everyone can materialize whatever the hell they need for themselves.

Key 12-18-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2025752)
Fine, i'll take your trophy if you don't want it.

Also, people are generally not fit to make value assessments about their own work compared to others. It's pretty well established psychology that we are way overconfident.

I think it's fair to have a certain expectation of what your time is worth.

Key 12-18-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2025756)
and this attitude will continue the exploitation of the workforce by making people compete with each other for the ever shrinking amount of slots in the middle class

I think it's an unhealthy relationship with self-worth to even worry about the quality of job others do

you need a pat on your head by your boss for being a good little boy

I'm just gonna see myself out as I have nothing else to add due to my own ignorance.

DwnWthVwls 12-18-2018 08:32 PM

K

Anteater 12-18-2018 08:33 PM

Rather than this boring discussion, let's talk about things that would actually change the game. UBI is one aspect of what lies ahead, but this other stuff will eventually eliminate scarcity in regards to a lot of what we eat, which will in turn have a fairly large impact on society.


DwnWthVwls 12-18-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 2025760)
I'm just gonna see myself out as I have nothing else to add due to my own ignorance.

Dont be so hard on yourself, elph is just expressing hyperbolic bias with no consideration for actual function or human behavior. It's so punk it hurts.

Key 12-18-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2025765)
Dont be so hard on yourself, elph is just expressing hyperbolic bias with no consideration for actual function or human behavior. It's so punk it hurts.

Oh it's all good. I know virtually nothing about this stuff. I just think it's good practice to at least know what your time is worth. I get that the work place isn't fair but that's not every work place.


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