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The Batlord 11-13-2020 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2144285)
That's a complete lost cause. The old Republican party is dead. They just haven't come to terms yet.

Trumpism is the new Republican party. It's not going away anytime soon imo.
I mean I agree but I wouldn't be surprised if all the Republicans still looking for Wallstreet blowjobs would be the last to realize this so that you have a newly rightified Democratic party fighting with old school neocons to be the most palatable party to rich donors until someone more competent than Trump rises up to fulfill his promise of being the new populist right wing demagogue and we just end up in this same place in ten or twenty years but even ****ing worse and he's literally Hitler and the longer this takes to happen the more this demagogue will literally be Hitler.

The Batlord 11-13-2020 06:32 PM
What the **** are you talking about? Bernie became a thing cause everyone hated the right. Obama had nothing to do with the left's radicalization.

Anteater 11-13-2020 07:50 PM
All of these problems would just disappear if Oprah would run for office.

Lucem Ferre 11-13-2020 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2144297)
w00t

Bernie wasn't even on the map during the Bush years

it was after Obama that he came pretty close to upsetting Clinton

neoliberals radicalize the left too by being disappointing
It was after the internet and social media became more accessible that Bernie came close to upsetting clinton.


And JWB I'd argue that the Republican party always was the Trump party.

jwb 11-13-2020 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2144291)
I mean I agree but I wouldn't be surprised if all the Republicans still looking for Wallstreet blowjobs would be the last to realize this so that you have a newly rightified Democratic party fighting with old school neocons to be the most palatable party to rich donors until someone more competent than Trump rises up to fulfill his promise of being the new populist right wing demagogue and we just end up in this same place in ten or twenty years but even ****ing worse and he's literally Hitler and the longer this takes to happen the more this demagogue will literally be Hitler.
I don't think the democratic party is going to be influenced by the Lincoln project at all. Everyone sees the obvious grift for what it is. Those guys are just happy to have a seat at the table. For now.

jwb 11-13-2020 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2144294)
What the **** are you talking about? Bernie became a thing cause everyone hated the right. Obama had nothing to do with the left's radicalization.
no he's right.... Back in 2011 or so if you were a leftist you were probably watching the young Turks rant about how weak and docile Obama was and how he's not a true progressive etc... That was around when occupy wall street and all that popped off.

A lot of us came of age and voted in 2008 for Obama then became black pilled once it was clear he was hardly that different from Bush.

Maajo 11-13-2020 09:56 PM
Medicare for all, criminal justice reform, new legislation to address climate change and better labor laws is really ****ing radical. I can't believe how radical Bernie Sanders is for attempting to address four of the biggest issues in America and the world today. He's exactly like Hitler!

OccultHawk 11-13-2020 11:35 PM
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Trump Loses String of Election Lawsuits, Leaving Few Vehicles to Fight His Defeat

The president’s efforts to use the courts to delay or block President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory were turned aside in cases in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona.
NYTimes

jwb 11-13-2020 11:48 PM
Time to start Trump TV

This is all just an act at this point imo

Setting up the martyr complex in advance

Trump the president is gone. Trump the political God is here to stay.

The Batlord 11-14-2020 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2144313)
yeah and it lead to the Justice Democrats (co-founded by Cenk who ironically got Cancelled) who have been by my measure pretty successful so far

but the funny thing about Doomers like Batlord is they wouldn't be activists regardless
And you'll always be the phony progressive who sides with whoever you think will win.


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