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Frownland 09-01-2020 10:08 AM
My favourite part of his books is that they're exclusively about my political enemies.

Lucem Ferre 09-01-2020 10:15 AM
Am I wrong though?

Wasn't the point of newspeak to both limit thought through limiting language and letting the ambiguity of the words make it easier to manipulate the public?

SGR 09-01-2020 10:18 AM

Lucem Ferre 09-01-2020 10:37 AM
And I'm not agreeing with Elph and saying that you used the word wrong. I disagree with your point but you used the word right.

I just think setting clear boundaries on the meaning of a word so it can't just mean what ever you want it to mean isn't Orwellian.

OccultHawk 09-01-2020 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2133843)
Am I wrong though?

Wasn't the point of newspeak to both limit thought through limiting language and letting the ambiguity of the words make it easier to manipulate the public?
Yes. You’re right.

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you used the word right
Goddamn skippy I did.

OccultHawk 09-01-2020 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2133875)
when something is Orwellian, it's obfuscating truth through political language

it was never about survalience
Surveillance is a central theme in 1984 and oppressive surveillance is one of the most common meanings of the term.

OccultHawk 09-01-2020 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2133875)
when something is Orwellian, it's obfuscating truth through political language

it was never about survalience
Please stfu

OccultHawk 09-01-2020 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2133883)
the intended use of Orwellian was not "things that I don't like related to authoritarian governments" but here we are

I'd like to de-Orwell the term
You are pulling a full-on anteater. You were 100% wrong and now you’re trying to keep twisting it up. Just do yourself a favor and ****ing stop.

Neapolitan 09-01-2020 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2133878)
those are both true, but it's one book he wrote, and then the most surface application of it

I didn't say it was wrong btw, I just think it's bad + dumb
Yeah exactly cause bad + dumb = five.

SGR 09-02-2020 07:31 AM
From Biden's recent speech in Pittsburgh.



Somebody get this man back into his basement!


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