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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2140755)

I sympathize with your point jdubbs but you're using the kind of gotcha logic that homophobes use to say that lesbian sex isn't real sex, just foreplay. Things just aren't that cut and dry when it comes to sexuality.

you think I'm saying it's cut and dry? I'm saying a certain % of straights are just unconquered territory.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2140752)

I mean why do I find them repulsive? If they're a straight mess then it's probably too overwhelming but if they just have xyz flaw you could overlook that if they're a good ****.

Like guys do this with women all the time. I know for a fact most of us would let a girl we don't find particularly attractive give us head.

Do you honestly think a gay guy would refuse to let a woman peg him if she know what she was doing?

It depends on how gay they are. I think you underestimate that, for instance to me a guy is not simply 'not particularly attractive'. Not that I find all guys repulsive, far from it, but it's just not sexual. To be fair, of course I've wondered about my limits for having sex with a guy and honestly I have no idea what they are exactly. But the logic of not seeing them anyway if they're behind you is as primitive as my cat hiding from me by putting his head behind a curtain. Also I think men are generally less picky when it comes to sexual partners than women.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2140757)

I almost guarantee there's more gay guys who would say yes to a woman if they were convinced she could lay pipe well than straight guys who are into getting pegged by women who would do the same gender swap.

That's cause there's no stigma to going straight.

this is absolutely true though

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2140760)

Also I think men are generally less picky when it comes to sexual partners than women.

that's basically the disconnect here which is why I'm not targeting lesbians but straight men.

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Also I think men are generally less picky when it comes to sexual partners than women.

Generally probably but still case by case enough to not be that relevant. Having a sexual preference shouldn’t get you labeled a ——phobe. It’s a personal choice not a political one. A lot of gay me only want sex with other gay men and don’t want trans anything. That’s not hate that’s just comfortable boundaries for an individual who has autonomy over his (in this case) body.

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2140764)

that's basically the disconnect here which is why I'm not targeting lesbians but straight men.

that's fair

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2140765)

I agree, but jwb is right that many straight men repress part of that sexual preference (out of homophobia)
And I guess some people's sexuality is more strongly linked to which genitals you have, so then being trans matters. That's ok too

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2140764)

that's basically the disconnect here which is why I'm not targeting lesbians but straight men.

But there’s a huge spectrum of what’s comfortable sex for gay men. Some only like handies, some only like being on top, some only like black guys, - no one should be labeled a bigot for ****ing how they want to ****.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2140765)

I don't actually think it makes you a homophobe on an individual basis tbh. But I do think a lot of it comes down perception and identity. The discrepancy I noted is relevant because it exposes a stigma that acts as a motivating factor in shaping that trend.

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I agree, but jwb is right that many straight men repress part of that sexual preference

As long as there’s not a culture of judgement based on who they decide to ****.

Women went through that in the sixties where they were called racists for not ****ing black guys. The MC5, who were white, were notorious for pressuring women into sex using the aren’t you down with the struggle crap. Even The Stooges thought that was slimey.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2140770)

As long as there’s not a culture of judgement based on who they decide to ****.

... Which perfectly describes the very stigma that scares straight men away from gay ****

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2140769)

I’m sick of the stigma 18 year old women have against ****ing guys in their 50’s.