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Trollheart 01-28-2021 06:28 PM

Second Amendment Discussion
 
See, you Americans are weird. As far as I know, in no other country is it legal for a private citizen to carry a gun; the only people allowed to be armed are certain police and the military. So how do you - non-Americans too - feel about the 2nd Amendment? Does it need to be tightened up? Is it fine as it is? Should I just raise my hands and back slowly away?

OccultHawk 01-28-2021 06:40 PM

Ban all guns.

But start with the government. Start with the nukes. Work your way down to the cops’ pistols. Then start disarming civilians.

Trollheart 01-29-2021 10:01 AM

This from a man whose current response to most things is
http://www.kalashnikov-encyclopaedia...ted%20AK47.gif

OccultHawk 01-29-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2159346)
This from a man whose current response to most things is
http://www.kalashnikov-encyclopaedia...ted%20AK47.gif

What part of start with the government confused you?

SGR 01-29-2021 10:09 AM

In a way, I agree with Hawk. Though I'm not in favor of banning guns in general.

Gun control is gun centralizaiton. Need guns to enforce gun control. Need guns to enforce taxation. I'll give up my guns when the government gives up their guns.

To be more specific, I'm not opposed to more checks and balances - strong background checks, closing gun show loopholes, etc.

Trollheart 01-29-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2159347)
What part of start with the government confused you?

The ban all guns part.
So are you going to use guns to disarm the Feds, and then, what? Throw yours away? Melt them down into ploughshares? Violence don't defeat violence and two wrongs don't make a Republican senator on Capitol Hill.

Mindfulness 01-29-2021 10:38 AM

shall not be infringed...


I feel it shouldn't be tightened to citizens. I wrote a whole essay on this at university and the only thing I thought needed to be infringed, (if that's your argument), was registration annually. We register vehicles here in Connecticut every year but not weapons.

To the best of my knowledge at least because I don't own any weapons now. So they may already have some registration program.

OccultHawk 01-29-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 2159353)
The ban all guns part.
So are you going to use guns to disarm the Feds, and then, what? Throw yours away? Melt them down into ploughshares? Violence don't defeat violence and two wrongs don't make a Republican senator on Capitol Hill.

Yes. If the government completely disarms I will too. I genuinely mean it when I say I want to ban all guns. There has to be a sane process though.

Right now we have a system that allows power hungry senile angry narcissistic lunatics (and that’s ANY president) access to the nuclear football. That’s insane. There’s a starting point and it’s not my revolver. My revolver is literally last. But unlike other gun control advocates I have a sincere position to eliminate ALL guns and all weaponry from the planet. I believe in banning ALL guns.

Frownland 01-29-2021 10:52 AM

There were some lower court rulings dating back to the 1980s iirc, but the second amendment as a protection of individual gun rights was only just established by the supreme court in 2008.

OccultHawk 01-29-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2159354)
shall not be infringed...


I feel it shouldn't be tightened to citizens. I wrote a whole essay on this at university and the only thing I thought needed to be infringed, (if that's your argument), was registration annually. We register vehicles here in Connecticut every year but not weapons.

To the best of my knowledge at least because I don't own any weapons now. So they may already have some registration program.

You shoulda kept the original.


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