Yeah i noticed you said they werent in any order until top 30. I would even be tempted to place The Music in my top 30 though. Welcome To The North is an album I do really like yeah, when compared to the debut though it doesnt quite match up. Strength In Numbers is something that didnt completely click with me either but when performed live it all sounds very good. A bit like how I feel about The Cooper Temple Clauses third album, I dont know if you are into them or not. It's quite a piss poor record in all honesty but I saw them promote that record live just weeks before they broke up and it all sounded great live.

It's the case with a few things isn't? By the product sounding better live I mean. For example, Art Brut's music doesn't really strike a chord with me, but they're an awesome live act.

As for the Cooper Temple Clause, I remember liking them when I was teenager (2003, 2004 or something like that) having heard a few songs here and there, but I never got 'round to getting any of their music. It's on the old to-do list though.

I was a teenager too when See This Through And Leave Came out and they just kind of stuck. I remember I picked it up for a fiver in Sainsburys in a bargain bin buried under a load of **** Eddie Murphy DVD's having only heard one or two tracks and fell in love with it. The second record was good too, the third was a pile of ****.

I remember that song! Those were the days eh. I'll have a look 'round for their first two efforts when I can. Cheers for the heads-up mate.

Alright, here's the next batch;

88. Big Youth - Screaming Target (1972)
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This, the debut album from Jamaican DJ Manley Augustus Buchanan, aka Big Youth, is one of the generally-accepted classics of roots reggae and for good reason too. It still stands up today as a shining, timeless example of roots at its finest, getting by on some terrific rhythms and vocals which, a few places, are almost a precursor to the ragga style. Highly influential, and one of the essential reggae albums.
The best bits: Pride and Joy Rock, the Killer, Solomon a Gunday

87. Magazine - Real Life (1978)
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It's about time I got some post-punk in here. Being the first Magazine album I bought, this is the one which wins a place in the list for me. Being the debut from ex-Buzzcock's frontman Howard Devoto, needless to say, the change in direction is absolutely incredible. The album kicks into gear with the Definitive Gaze; the synth-led instrumental intro alone is as brilliant as showcase as any of what punk could achieve by casting off the shackles of its earliest form and moving forward artistically. The album then varies from prog/punk mashups to energetic, fasty-moving rockers, (that's how it sounds to me anyway), and is one of the true post-punk classics.
The best bits: The Definitive Gaze, Shot By Both Sides, the Light Pours Out Of Me

86. Johnny Thunders - So Alone (1978)
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Following his first post-New York Dolls album sinking like a stone upon release, the former Dolls lead guitarist decided to ditch his backing band and simply make the music he truly loved. This rootsy album, containing elements of rock 'n' roll, blues, glam and shades of the energy of punk rock, is a showcase for the talents of someone who had the potential to become one of the truly great songwriters. Unfortunately, Johnny Thunders was also one of the famous rock 'n' roll casualties, and so before his death from a heroin overdose in 1991 he only released one more album (the wishy-washy Que Sera Sera). This album though was his finest artistic achievement. (An interesting bit of trivia, the cover of Otis Blackwell's Daddy Rollin' Stone features contributions from guest vocalists Steve Marriot and Phil Lynott - two more big names who died relatively young. Spooky!)
The best bits: You Can't Put Your Arms Around a Memory, Great Big Kiss, Downtown

85. The Wedding Present - George Best (1987)
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The Wedding Present's 1987 release basically epitomises all the good bits of the C86 indie movement and rolls them all into one nice package. It's very upbeat, friendly and immediate indie, which is clearly heavily influenced by Joy Division and the Buzzcocks, and is up there with the rest of my favourite albums of the 80s. Why no higher? Simply because I can't fit it into the top 30 without letting something undeserving drop out of it. Rest assured though, it's definitely one of the very best C86 albums. (An even better package is delivered by the George Best Plus re-release, so keep an eye peeled for that if you don't already have it).
The best bits: Everyone Thinks He Looks Daft, My Favourite Dress, Something and Nothing

''You can't say it doesn't really matter/
This isn't TV, he isn't William Shatner'' :tramp:

this forum needs a kick up the arse of the C86 front

I'm giving cd86 some love now my man!

haha no rush mate i know you're down

johnny thunders is sick, big ups.

You know, I've never given the Wedding Present a listen even though I've meant to for some time. I do dig the Wedding Present offshoot band the Ukrainians though. If you've never heard them I think they're worth a listen.

This is the first time I've ever heard of C86 despite Wikipedia informing me that it's "one of the most derided UK music genres in the last thirty years".

Definitely. Well worth looking into beyond the Dolls.

Don't believe a word of it. Check out the CD86 comp when you can. Better yet, let me know if you want a link to it.

As for the Ukranians, never heard of them unfortunately. If they're an offshoot band from this lot though they've gotta worth my time.