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The Batlord 02-15-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1552038)
THE ONLY DIVIDER IS SOME OF US ARE DIRTY, FILTHY WHORES AND SOME OF US READ HAWKEYE, ONE OF THE ABSOLUTE BEST COMICS ON THE MARKET TODAY.(;))

ftfy

Janszoon 02-15-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1552028)
There's nothing wrong with disliking a movie, and you shouldn't feel the need to insult it to try to justify your dislike of it. You didn't take to it, and that's fine. Now, prepare for a long winded defense of Eraserhead, because I've got nothing better to do right now, and maybe I can help you to understand why people like it so much...

When you say that Eraserhead is boring I have to agree, because in my opinion, that's kind of the entire point of Eraserhead. Horror movies try to shock us by tapping into the things that scare us, things like violence, submission, pain and suspense. Eraserhead is a horror movie that ignores all of those topics, and focuses purely on the things that scare us most; loneliness and boredom. While other movies are certainly more shocking at first, the fact that they have drama, heroes, and villains excites us by playing off of our social construction, as well as our need to have structure (i.e. good versus evil) and meaning in our lives. Eraserhead reminds us that no horror movie can be as frightening as what happens when the movie ends, and we have to go back to marching on towards our inevitable and probably meaningless deaths. Because when we think that there really aren't any villains and heroes in life, that there isn't any grand plan or deeper meaning, the implications in our imagination are more unsettling than any horror villain could ever be.

Most of us will never know what it's like to have a slasher stalking them, and most of us will never experience the clarity of morality that comes from defeating some ancient evil, but we all know what it's like to wake up alone in the morning and to simply stare at the room around us. We've all thought about whether our lives are anything more than our bodies trying as hard as they can to reproduce and keep the species alive. The horror of having to go back to a job that you hate, of having to keep living the same routine every day, of constantly wondering if anyone else in the world feels as alone and meaningless as you do, and living through all of this while knowing fully well that it doesn't really matter because you're going to die soon enough anyway.

Also, Eraserhead is incredibly open to interpretation. It's one of the few movies that doesn't force a clear-cut conflict on the viewer. You get to decide what it's about, and in the end you decide what to take from it. Is it about the difficulty of becoming an adult, and a parent? Is it about a man who longs to return to his youth, and is jealous of his infant child to the point of hate? Is it about shame and social conventions forcing humans to hide away what they really want? Is it about how everything we do is an attempt to stay alive and comfortable for as long as possible, to seek whatever warmth we can find in our cold lives? You decide.

Basically, I think you should give it another shot sometime. The lack of a clear narrative seems very pretentious at first, but it's actually the opposite, as David Lynch is essentially entrusting the entire point of his movie to you. He's not insulting your intelligence by forcing specific morals on you, or trying to talk down to you from a point of moral superiority, and that alone makes me respect him and Eraserhead.

I thought Eraserhead was incredibly boring when I saw it, a few memorable images but not much else. To be fair though, it's been about 25 years since I've seen it so it's possible I'd have a different take on it now.

Psy-Fi 02-15-2015 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1552045)
I thought Eraserhead was incredibly boring when I saw it, a few memorable images but not much else. To be fair though, it's been about 25 years since I've seen it so it's possible I'd have a different take on it now.

My take on it is just the opposite. I saw it around 1983 in a theater and at the time I thought it was one of the strangest, funniest and most memorable films I had ever seen. I just re-watched it recently and thought it was incredibly boring, silly and a waste of time. :laughing:

Exo 02-15-2015 08:41 AM

Regardless of whether you like the film or not, there is no reason why a person should refer to anything as a "faggot art film". The whole "Oh, I wasn't using that word sexually" excuse is bullshit. People who use that excuse are assholes. Don't worry though, I wasn't using that term biologically. You're just an asshole.

Chula Vista 02-15-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1552065)
Regardless of whether you like the film or not, there is no reason why a person should refer to anything as a "faggot art film". The whole "Oh, I wasn't using that word sexually" excuse is bullshit.

It's his "thing" though.

Key 02-15-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1552065)
Regardless of whether you like the film or not, there is no reason why a person should refer to anything as a "faggot art film". The whole "Oh, I wasn't using that word sexually" excuse is bullshit. People who use that excuse are assholes. Don't worry though, I wasn't using that term biologically. You're just an asshole.

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Exo 02-15-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1552080)
It's his "thing" though.

Yeah, and it's bullsh*t. It's even more bullsh*t that the mods don't even attempt to stop it. I wasn't the biggest dirty fan, but that guy had a target on his back. Everything he said was scrutinized yet there are some members here that get away with murder. Don't get me wrong, I like JWB. I think that a blunt personality that speaks his mind is a good thing for this board, but using the term "f*aggot" that loosely is completely unnecessary and flat out disrespectful, no matter what the intended use.

Since I'm on that topic, what the f*ck is the intended use? If you're not using f*ggot to refer to somebody sexually then what the f*ck are you using it for? It makes no sense. It's stupid. It's childish.

Key 02-15-2015 09:50 AM

^The only argument I can put against you for argument sake is that gay guys use the term ***got sometimes, in a non demeaning way. It could just depend on the person, but I don't think it's meant as offensive when they say it. However, I grew up thinking the word should never be used as a way to describe something bad or describe anything for that matter.

Frownland 02-15-2015 09:51 AM


Exo 02-15-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1552088)
^The only argument I can put against you for argument sake is that gay guys use the term ***got sometimes, in a non demeaning way. It could just depend on the person, but I don't think it's meant as offensive when they say it. However, I grew up thinking the word should never be used as a way to describe something bad or describe anything for that matter.



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