Les Rythmes Digitales
 

I've never really been a big Stuart Price fan, but in the past few weeks Darkdancer has somehow come up in practically every conversation I've had regarding electronic music, so I finally listened to more than "Jacques Your Body" and Darkdancer rules. I guess I'd sort of written it off as more Chem Bros style 90s Big Beat than the French House it was biting, but it's really ****ing good. Any other fans?

Darkdancer is a BLOODY good album, one of the best electroclash albums I've heard. Favourite songs off it: Sometimes, Take A Little Time, Hypnotise.

he's a friend of all my friends from reading... i've not met him tho. big fan of course.. more of his band/remix work rather than his bass/producing work (esp with madonnna)

Lul. It's, cheesy early 90's dance music! Terrible...

Darkdancer is from 99, and doesn't really sound early 90s out all outside of some vocal samples. I'm curious as to what you think of as cheesy early 90s dance.

Besides, it's really not that different from any of the late 90s Big Beat or French Touch.

I know. Sure it does. There's the early 90's late 80's beats, synths and vocals.
Notice any similarities to Dreamin'?

Not that different from The chemical brothers or Freestylers? I'd have to disagree...

I could say the same about just about any EDM group out today.

Not really. Dreamin' sounds more like early Chicago House than a jock jam.

Sure it's not exactly "Firesetarter," but how is this really any different from anything Fatboy Slim or Groove Armada put out in the 90s? Les Rythmes Digitales is more commonly associated with Big Beat than anything else.

Really? Who would you compare LRD to today? Do any of them have any "music makes you lose control" lyrics?

Then early Chicago house must have made a particular impact on the late 80's early 90's dance music because I certainly do see similarities...


It doesn't have a particularly big beat?*unsure*
Incidentally, wasn't Groove armada chillout/lounge in the 90's?

I'd compare them to pretty much any Electro House group, the Ed Banger kind as well as the more popular Axwell/Ingrosso/etc. variety. Take a look at Simian Mobile Disco, Calvin Harris, Mylo, etc. and they're all basically LRD lite. Not to mention more minimal producers like Prosumer, Dixon, etc. getting closer and closer to this sound (see: Deep House's sudden popularity).

There are similarities in all music, dance or otherwise, I just don't really see how a vocal sample and some 80s-style synth makes this cheesy early 90s dance and not Daft Punk-style French House (which is what he was going for).

"Hey You What's That Sound" and "Jacques Your Body" don't have Big Beats? They're more disco than the early 90s rave-influenced Big Beat, but they could be played alongside practically any Big Beat group and I doubt anyone would really complain. Big Beat isn't all rock-style anthems.

Groove Armada were more Trip-Hop, but the genre was pretty closely tied to Big Beat anyway, at least in mainstream culture.

SMD is LRD lite? :laughing: Wow...

That's exactly what the difference is...:rolleyes: Plus, unlike LRD, Daft Punk doesn't suck. ;)


No they really don't. There's a pretty big difference between disco and Big beat. Yes it is, and I certainly would complain if someone followed up Elektrobank with Dreamin'.

That's gotta be the funniest shit I've heard all day. As far as electronic music is concerned, lounge/trip-hop/chillout and big beat are pretty much the polar opposites...:laughing:

Hello? Did you listen to SMD's last album? I'm amazed you can accuse LRD of being cheesy 90s dance music and not see how SMD are basically doing the same thing.

You haven't given a reason why this is somehow magically closer to early 90s jock jams than any Daft Punk song is. Darkdancer is basically a Big Beat version of Discovery.

Hence the word "more disco," obviously I would never consider LRD disco, I was just pointing out that yes, they have more of a disco influence than The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, etc. I don't see how anyone could fail to see how a song like "Hey You What's That Sound" could easily slot alongside a Fatboy Slim one. And keep in mind he was the one that invented the term Big Beat in the first place, and easily the genre's most recognizable name. You're forgetting that all Big Beat isn't made up entirely of The Chemical Brothers and the Prodigy.

You seem to have trouble understanding the fact that groups frequently fall under more than one genre, as well as the history of British dance music in the 90s. Trip-Hop and Chillout aren't even the same thing.

Aside from the fact that Fatboy Slim's remix of "I See You Baby" is one of the most well-known Big Beat songs (which is why I said they were more Trip-Hop, but also lumped them in with Big Beat, because they were), Trip-Hop and Big Beat, along with taking many of the same influences, were arguably the two most popular electronic genres of the 90s and occupied a pretty similar space in mainstream music.

Not to my ears.
Yes I have actually, it's bolded...plus I gave an example of what the album reminded me off. Daft punk don't remind me of cheesy dance music. I don't see anything Big beat about Darkdancer but if that's a Big beat album, then every electro act with a dance beat is a big beat act, including DP, so I'm not sure your analogy works. :\


Ok, I still hear the cheesy synth and vocals though, I can't think of any Fatboy slim songs that sound like that.

I see them being labeled as all three things, but I'm not gonna pretend to know the difference.

If you say so. I still don't see a particular connection between Darkdancer and Vertigo...or how either are big beat albums...:\

I liked that LRD album but c'mon, SMD is WAY better than them. They're pretty much a total joke compared to SMD.



...and Muscles ;).

Are you kidding? Outside of "Hustler" SMD is pure 90s. The whole album is super gimmicky.


Really? "One More Time" doesn't remind you of cheesy dance music? Because, as big a DP fan as I am, that song strikes me as a hell of a lot cheesier than anything on Darkdancer. It's tacky, almost.

I think you and I have very different definitions of what Big Beat is. I don't really see Chem Bros, etc. as the "quintessential" Big Beat group, because it extends much further than that.

Did you listen to the whole album or just the first song? Because much of the album has the Hip-Hop, Electro, and Breaks influences that Fatboy Slim (and Big Beat) is known for.

I can only find a slight connection to SMD in MDC Vendredi...I suppose I see a great difference between 90's rave influenced dance and cheesy 90's dance... Not all songs are like that I'll give you that, but the ones that are (Hypnotize, Music makes you lose control, Hey you what's that sound, Take a little time) are enough to ruin the experience. Plus, really, I love all the aforementioned artists you connected him with, but I can't say I took to this album. I realize what he was going for but it just didn't achieve that effect for me...I'd say only Jacques your body and Soft machine stood the test of time. Take a little time probably would have topped some 80's charts...If you add the annoyance of From disco to disco and Sometimes it doesn't add up to a particularly pleasurable listening experience.*shrugs*

Discovery is more influenced by late 70's early 80's disco than late 80's early 90's dance, especially that song. So I wouldn't say it's tacky, more like retro.
As far as the Discovery connection, I only maybe see it on About funk...

Ok, I realize that, but take Fatboy slim, he had pretty recognizable, hard hitting beats which really stood out in a song (Right here, right now, Rockafella skank, Love island) and I'm just not seeing that here. Not to mention that You've come a long way baby is a 10 times better album than Darkdancer no matter how you spin it.

I have, many times over and again, wouldn't really compare the two.

Anyway...I think I've given this album more attention than it deserves. To each their own.http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...lpower/hug.gif