help me
 

whats some really good like techno... i guess.
i know its not techno its some sub genre.
but im lookin for like the kind of music they play at raves but like more dark, and no singing, especialy corny girl singers and piano. just a straight up crazy beat.

Here's a fairly dark, straight up crazy beat for you:

not exactly what i was looking for. but thanks for the help. i think what im looking for is called dubstep.

Woop a direction

Check out Skream


Rusko


Caspa


Benga & Coki


Kromestar


Enjoy!

I guess i'll just post an example of some subgenres then when you pick which one you like i'll give more examples.

Epic trance:



Tech trance:



Hard trance:



Hard tech trance (old):



Hard tech trance (new):



Hardstyle (reverse bass in the main):



Hardstyle (punchy kicks):



Electro:

Dubstep is great stuff but are you sure it's what you're looking for? It's not much like what you described in the OP, a decent amount of it has female vocals and it's not really very rave-ish.

I'd say most dubstep has no vocals.

how the hell do you embed? I'm posting the youtube embedding link and it's not working.

here's some (not all dark) to get you started

YouTube - Truth - The Fatman [HQ]

YouTube - Digital Mystikz - Haunted

YouTube - Pinch:::::Punisher

YouTube - Digital Mystikz - Lean Forward

YouTube - Mala - Changes

YouTube - Silkie - Test

YouTube - COKI & N-TYPE - DEBT

YouTube - COKI - GOBLIN

YouTube - Joker & Ginz - Stash [HD]

YouTube - Distance - Free Me

YouTube - Joker - Purple City

YouTube - Appleblim - Vansan

YouTube - Loefah - The Goat Stare

YouTube - KROMESTAR-MY SOUND-2009

omgggg. thank you everyone. its deffinatly dub step im looking for. not really into trance or any of that other stuff. but thanks

bassnectar is some good step. has vocals on occasion too.