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henry 04-13-2010 02:10 PM

question on trance
 
whats the best way to experience a mix compilation.. take for example ferry corsten's once upon a night - released in unmixed tracks and mixed..

is mixed tracks better? or unmixed?

mixed = continuous from track to track (one large file)
unmixed = individual separate songs (separate files)

thx

wickedlk 04-13-2010 03:37 PM

It depends what you want from the album:

For an album experience I like to listen to the mixed compilation as everything flows a bit better without the long intros and outros that are the staple of most trance songs.

However, (because I'm fussy) I like to have unmixed tracks too so I can cherry pick and make up my own playlists.

It's all down to personal choice but if I really had to choose one it would be unmixed because of the flexibility of playlists and knowing what track is playing at any given time.

CanwllCorfe 04-13-2010 03:37 PM

It all depends! If you like hearing mixes then go for it. I don't though because if I wanna skip a song, the next one starts abruptly. I like the original songs where I can experience the progression. Not everyone has the patience to listen to the full song when, since they're meant to be mixed, they all start very basic and end very basic.

EDIT: LOL I guess you can tell we're both seasoned trance fans :D

FETCHER. 04-13-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedlk (Post 849803)
It depends what you want from the album:

For an album experience I like to listen to the mixed compilation as everything flows a bit better without the long intros and outros that are the staple of most trance songs.

However, (because I'm fussy) I like to have unmixed tracks too so I can cherry pick and make up my own playlists.

It's all down to personal choice but if I really had to choose one it would be unmixed because of the flexibility of playlists and knowing what track is playing at any given time.

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 849804)
It all depends! If you like hearing mixes then go for it. I don't though because if I wanna skip a song, the next one starts abruptly. I like the original songs where I can experience the progression. Not everyone has the patience to listen to the full song when, since they're meant to be mixed, they all start very basic and end very basic.

EDIT: LOL I guess you can tell we're both seasoned trance fans :D

I feel the same way. I have alot of mixed compilations. The songs are phenomenal, but the thing that pisses me off ALOT about them is that I can't skip songs smoothly, unless I memorise every single time a song starts, only bad thing :(

IWP 04-14-2010 08:21 AM

I have another question about trance, why isn't it very popular in the U.S.?

henry 04-14-2010 08:26 AM

because mainstream hip hop and pop trash (beyonce, gaga, rihanna, justin bieber etc) dominate the mainstream scene - which is sad because that music is god awful

IWP 04-14-2010 08:32 AM

Ha, you ain't telling me nothing, my neighborhood is filled with wannabe "gangstas". Hell, even scene kids are wearing fitted hats now. But my rave scene is mostly dominated by jump up drum & bass which is decent yet every song practically sounds the same, dubstep which is alright to chill to, but not really good to dance to, and the occasional electrohouse DJ. Even most of the ravers around here hate trance, and refer to it as "***" music. My guess is, trance was more popular in the late 90s/early 00s, and now there's a backlash against it. Yet again, I've only recently gotten into the rave scene so what do I know?

FETCHER. 04-14-2010 08:59 AM

Move to Scotland. We have a masi trance scene :D But in all seriousness I have no idea why or what to do. I have no idea what its like to be into a genre of music nobody else shares. :(

Edit: except when I use this. Kayleigh = Outcast :( :laughing:

IWP 04-14-2010 09:47 AM

If I had money, I'd definently move to somewhere in Europe.

CanwllCorfe 04-14-2010 11:12 AM

I think it's because everyone in the U.S. need instant gratification; fast food, songs are short and basic, and it seems like things are never moving fast enough for some people. Trance is very "layered" and atmospheric. People seem to like melodies that are EXTREMELY simple and some words so that they can sing to it. Every time I show it to someone they tend to say something along the lines of "I feel like I'm in a club", "I need some glow sticks", "Does it sound like this the whole time? Does it change?", "8 minutes long? What the ****" and so on. It's just one of those genres that people in the U.S. don't get. However I think the line between pop music and electronic music is getting smaller and smaller so I think, in time, some of it may be popular. I know back in the early 00s some of the REALLY popular stuff was being played but not anymore.

henry 04-14-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 850193)
Move to Scotland. We have a masi trance scene :D But in all seriousness I have no idea why or what to do. I have no idea what its like to be into a genre of music nobody else shares.

Edit: except when I use this. Kayleigh = Outcast :( :laughing:


lol, born in Ascot ENG, raised in Paisley ;)

FETCHER. 04-15-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by henry (Post 850743)
lol, born in Ascot ENG, raised in Paisley ;)

What you doin in Montreal then?? :)

What sorta accent do you have then? :D

Delpadschnick 04-15-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 850251)
I think it's because everyone in the U.S. need instant gratification; fast food, songs are short and basic, and it seems like things are never moving fast enough for some people. Trance is very "layered" and atmospheric. People seem to like melodies that are EXTREMELY simple and some words so that they can sing to it. Every time I show it to someone they tend to say something along the lines of "I feel like I'm in a club", "I need some glow sticks", "Does it sound like this the whole time? Does it change?", "8 minutes long? What the ****" and so on. It's just one of those genres that people in the U.S. don't get. However I think the line between pop music and electronic music is getting smaller and smaller so I think, in time, some of it may be popular. I know back in the early 00s some of the REALLY popular stuff was being played but not anymore.

So, what genre gets played in clubs in the US then? House, hip-hop?

IWP 04-15-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Delpadschnick (Post 851199)
So, what genre gets played in clubs in the US then? House, hip-hop?

Hip hop and reg***ton, at least where I'm from. Though there is one club that has a goth/industrial/80s night.

Delpadschnick 04-15-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP (Post 851218)
Hip hop and reg***ton, at least where I'm from. Though there is one club that has a goth/industrial/80s night.

Oh god, I'm glad I live in the Netherlands. We have a pretty awesome club scene here.

IWP 04-15-2010 06:56 PM

What music gets played in the country where it's actually legal to smoke up?

duga 04-15-2010 07:13 PM

You get so many people here in the US that say they can only really listen to this kind of music when they are rolling. Pathetic, really. Get an attention span.

Delpadschnick 04-15-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IWP (Post 851225)
What music gets played in the country where it's actually legal to smoke up?

Well, currently house is very mainstream. Trance has always been a bit of an outsider, but with a loyal fanbase. Electro, I think, will be the next big thing. But yeah, we have a lot of good parties here. Just went to Trance Energy a few weeks ago.

CanwllCorfe 04-15-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 851231)
You get so many people here in the US that say they can only really listen to this kind of music when they are rolling. Pathetic, really. Get an attention span.

I KNOW! I hate that to no end :banghead:

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Originally Posted by Delpadschnick (Post 851256)
Well, currently house is very mainstream. Trance has always been a bit of an outsider, but with a loyal fanbase. Electro, I think, will be the next big thing. But yeah, we have a lot of good parties here. Just went to Trance Energy a few weeks ago.

The Netherlands has so many amazing artists! Ferry Corsten, Rank 1, Joop, Rotterdam Terror Corps, Marcel Woods, Armin van Buuren, Misja Helsloot, Zany, Randy Katana, Junkie XL, DJ B-Front, Noisecontrollers, Marco V, Ron van Den Beuken, Walt Jenssen, John Marks, Neophyte, Jan Oostdyk, Sander van Dien, DJ Rob, Ummet Ozcan, Sander Kleinenberg, A-Lusion, Bas & Ram, Carlo Resoort a.k.a. 4 Strings, Jorn van Deynhoven, Joost van der Vleuten, Mark Norman (Mark de Jong and Norman Lenden), Maarten de Jong, Dash Berlin, DJ Thera, First State, Geck-O, and naturally, Tiesto.

Our clubs, if they play electronic, will either play commercialized stuff like Cascada or maybe House.

FETCHER. 04-16-2010 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Delpadschnick (Post 851221)
Oh god, I'm glad I live in the Netherlands. We have a pretty awesome club scene here.

I'd move to the Netherlands in a heartbeat just for the music scene. htid and that... :D

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CanwllCorfe (Post 851306)
The Netherlands has so many amazing artists! Ferry Corsten, Rank 1, Joop, Rotterdam Terror Corps, Marcel Woods, Armin van Buuren, Misja Helsloot, Zany, Randy Katana, Junkie XL, DJ B-Front, Noisecontrollers, Marco V, Ron van Den Beuken, Walt Jenssen, John Marks, Neophyte, Jan Oostdyk, Sander van Dien, DJ Rob, Ummet Ozcan, Sander Kleinenberg, A-Lusion, Bas & Ram, Carlo Resoort a.k.a. 4 Strings, Jorn van Deynhoven, Joost van der Vleuten, Mark Norman (Mark de Jong and Norman Lenden), Maarten de Jong, Dash Berlin, DJ Thera, First State, Geck-O, and naturally, Tiesto.

Our clubs, if they play electronic, will either play commercialized stuff like Cascada or maybe House.

I'm not really into hardcore myself, but yeah, lots of great artists. But there are a lot of great american DJs too, Markus Schulz, Larry Tee, Sandy Rivera, Erick Morillo, Steve Aoki, Armand van Helden and I think Tiga is american too (or maybe canadian). And there are some very good festivals in Miami. But I guess we're spoiled here.

FETCHER. 04-16-2010 08:40 AM

psssh, i only know helden.

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 11:28 AM

Aw come on, Schulz was 8th in the dj mag top 100. Pretty big name I would say.

CanwllCorfe 04-16-2010 12:53 PM

Yeah we've got Breakfast, DJ Eco, Sean Tyas (before he moved to Sweden), Redstar, Avenger, & George Acosta BUT you have tons and tons more. I kinda like it to be underground over here. If it got to be popular then everyone would listen to it and it just wouldn't be the same.

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 01:44 PM

Uhuh, that's what killed house over here. It's so mainstream now that nothing original gets released and every party is the same with the same annoying crowd.

FETCHER. 04-16-2010 07:59 PM

House tunes are immense. not so popular here. its mostly HTID, masters of hardcore etc over here. so Electro, techno, trance, house (my favourites) are really not that popular :(

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 08:22 PM

Can I ask, what do you like about techno? It always sounds so monotonous and boring to me..

duga 04-16-2010 08:25 PM

I actually hate the term techno. It makes it sound kind of nerdy. I prefer electronica, but even that covers a genre of music with hundreds of subgenres. I think you just need to explore it a little bit and you will find something you like. THIS thread is about trance...a kind of electronica that is monotonous to, well, put you in a trance. Go out to a club with an awesome dj, get some drinks in ya, and then tell me you don't like it. Usually that is when people are converted.

On the other side of electronica, listen to the album Campfire Headphase by Boards of Canada. It is experimental electronic, and it is quite honestly breathtakingly beautiful music. Check it out, there is really a lot to this kind of music.

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 08:43 PM

No, no, no. You misunderstand. I know what electronica is, and I love it. People think Techno is a substitute for electronica when it is actually a subgenre. Richie Hawtin, Ricardo Villalobos, Dave Clarke, that kind of thing. And I'm trying to understand what people like about this particular subgenre. Btw, I think trance is the least monotonous electronica, the big buildups, the climaxes, I always see it as electronic classical music.

duga 04-16-2010 08:46 PM

Ah I see. I actually had no clue about that. Well, damn, now don't I feel like the ignant fool.

Delpadschnick 04-16-2010 08:59 PM

Ah well, the term gets thrown around a lot.

wickedlk 04-17-2010 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Delpadschnick (Post 851455)
I'm not really into hardcore myself, but yeah, lots of great artists. But there are a lot of great american DJs too, Markus Schulz, Larry Tee, Sandy Rivera, Erick Morillo, Steve Aoki, Armand van Helden and I think Tiga is american too (or maybe canadian). And there are some very good festivals in Miami. But I guess we're spoiled here.

Markus Schulz is German? You had Ultra (jealous much) which was the best lineup I have EVER seen!!! I'm tempted to make WMC my holiday next year!

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Originally Posted by kayleigh. (Post 851830)
House tunes are immense. not so popular here. its mostly HTID, masters of hardcore etc over here. so Electro, techno, trance, house (my favourites) are really not that popular :(

You wait until you see the trance tent at Creamfields ;)

FETCHER. 04-17-2010 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Delpadschnick (Post 851844)
Can I ask, what do you like about techno? It always sounds so monotonous and boring to me..

I dunno, I just like it, it's like everything isn't it really? Trance can be repetitive and slow. Techno also has build ups, climax's and anticlimax's :D

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Originally Posted by wickedlk (Post 851976)
You wait until you see the trance tent at Creamfields ;)

Oh, it'll be many an eargasm. :love:


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