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Zil 04-26-2013 11:11 PM

LoL true that. I actually had a 5 hour argument with someone about why I didn't find Skrillex to be creative anymore, and how if you actually produce a little you can tell that he's basically making almost the same track a lot of the time...kind of like Tiesto. Find a sound+song structure that sells and regurgitate 50x. Make money.

SATCHMO 04-27-2013 12:02 AM

I remember posting a Boxcutter video in a dubstep thread quite a while ago and someone responding to it saying that I wasn't dubstep to him because there really weren't any breakdowns in the song and that's what epitomized dubstep to him. I didn't really quite get that, because hadn't quite caught on to the whole wobblestep craze, which is basically what we've come to know now as dubstep (even though it seems to have merged with electro lately.), but the reason why the genre, in many people's opinions gets worse as it grows in popularity is because the trend is toward longer, more dramatic build-ups/break-downs and and seeing how ridiculously hard you can wobble the shit outta the bass line when it drops, it's what sells and after a certain point it got annoying as fuck.

I know you can't talk about how much better the early Bristol scene was without sounding like a pretentious hipster, but it really represented a point where the art form was in the crafting of the song and not just the bass line.

Scarlett O'Hara 04-27-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePhanastasio (Post 1311958)
Underground dubstep was fantastic. Major producers capitalizing on the phenomenon does diminish the quality somewhat. There's still good dubstep to be found, but when your average person says they're a fan of dubstep, they're talking ****ing Skrillex or something.

So true, that's why I go on big hunts to find the best dubstep for people to check out. I have a great collection now. A lot of artists I've found are not mainstream at all but I am in the stage of thinking that it doesn't matter so much anymore if they're well known or not. An example of this is Burial, still produces sick tracks.

SamGalaxy 05-08-2013 04:58 PM

I'm scared to ask but...
Whats your opinion on Skrillex and Deadmau5?

Scarlett O'Hara 05-10-2013 03:44 PM

I don't listen to Skrillix and like older music of deadmau5. But that doesn't define my taste. There is plenty of excellent dubstep that many here have concurred on, in my dubstep thread.

Cuthbert 05-14-2013 09:47 AM

The problem is there are too many shit producers and casual fans jumping on the bandwagon and wanting the world to know they like Dubstep because it's the in thing.

There are still producers making good Dubstep and that will continue.

Depends if you're arsed who likes it. I am not.

Although, if people like Skrillex are seeing mainstream success from his interpretation of Dubstep i.e. shit then other producers will be tempted to change their style and copy his sound to see the same success, and that is bad for Dubstep.

The exact same thing happens in Grime. A decade ago all the young MC's were influenced by Dizzee and Wiley, now they're being influenced by the wrong guys and the sound has changed for the worse. It's better for the genre if people are being influenced by Mala, Loefah etc than Skrillex.

sdorviadesko 05-14-2013 10:04 AM

dubstep is efficient when used just a little bit as a touch of spice in the casserole. mainstream producer understand that well and use it everywhere to put fat in there production..;and it works. but someday they will find something else to exploit and dubstep will become underground again.

Scarlett O'Hara 05-14-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1318958)
The problem is there are too many shit producers and casual fans jumping on the bandwagon and wanting the world to know they like Dubstep because it's the in thing.

There are still producers making good Dubstep and that will continue.

Depends if you're arsed who likes it. I am not.

Although, if people like Skrillex are seeing mainstream success from his interpretation of Dubstep i.e. shit then other producers will be tempted to change their style and copy his sound to see the same success, and that is bad for Dubstep.

The exact same thing happens in Grime. A decade ago all the young MC's were influenced by Dizzee and Wiley, now they're being influenced by the wrong guys and the sound has changed for the worse. It's better for the genre if people are being influenced by Mala, Loefah etc than Skrillex.

I completely agree with this. I definitely think artists will be inspired by other artists that are more accessable and well known but in saying that there will always be great music being produced you just have to research until you find it.

duga 05-14-2013 03:56 PM

Guys like James Blake are keeping its integrity alive. I love me some James Blake.


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