Rape - Whose Fault Is It?

Key · 03-17-2017, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nice.

Sorry but if it's considered consensual, you can't call it rape. You['re as big of a problem for letting it happen as the person doing it. If both are not pushing away from it, you can't play victim.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

Sorry but if it's considered consensual, you can't call it rape. You['re as big of a problem for letting it happen as the person doing it. If both are not pushing away from it, you can't play victim.

Nice.

Key · 03-17-2017, 11:27 AM

Provide more substance in your argument before I continue. Because right now, you're providing no sense of argument.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 11:29 AM

We're arguing?

Key · 03-17-2017, 11:31 AM

I would assume with your standoffish attitude and reluctance to provide any statement stating your side of the argument, yes I would say this was up for debate given your continued attempts to get me to speak more about my side.

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 11:32 AM

I guess I can debate you if you want me to.

Key · 03-17-2017, 11:33 AM

Not necessary if that wasn't your intention. But a simple "nice" to both statements I provided gives literally no indication to whether you agree or disagree. Try using words more often.

DwnWthVwls · 03-17-2017, 11:39 AM

Why didn't I get a "nice"?

Oriphiel · 03-17-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Why didn't I get a "nice"?

Because nothing from New Jersey is "nice".

**Frownland** · 03-17-2017, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

If you don't say "no" to it,

Gray area as ****. What if they're asleep? What if they're too scared, intimidated, or overwhelmed to say anything? There are a lot of cases where someone is unable to say no.

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and let it happen,

Men are typically much stronger than women. "Letting it happen" when someone doesn't want it to happen doesn't mean that it's consensual.

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especially if you have the power to say no and get away,

Really depends on how you define that.

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you aren't allowed to play the victim card.

This was the main thing I commented on earlier. This is just gross and derisive language for a very serious situation.

Here's a guideline for determining rape
1: Did two or more people have sex?
2: Did everyone involved want to have sex?
3: If you answered yes to both questions, then it was not rape. If you answered yes to number one and no to number two, it is rape. Imo it's foolproof.

View Poll Results: Can you blame the victim for getting raped when raping someone is illegal?
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03-17-2017, 11:29 AM	#204 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	We're arguing? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-17-2017, 11:32 AM	#206 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I guess I can debate you if you want me to. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-17-2017, 11:27 AM	#203 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Provide more substance in your argument before I continue. Because right now, you're providing no sense of argument.

03-17-2017, 11:31 AM	#205 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I would assume with your standoffish attitude and reluctance to provide any statement stating your side of the argument, yes I would say this was up for debate given your continued attempts to get me to speak more about my side.

03-17-2017, 11:33 AM	#207 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	Not necessary if that wasn't your intention. But a simple "nice" to both statements I provided gives literally no indication to whether you agree or disagree. Try using words more often.