Superman is a pretty boy n batman has always been more of a man of the ppl

He lives in a mansion and hides behind the persona of an empty-headed playboy. How is that a man of the people?

Being that he is a pretty boy millionaire, don't you think he donates to charity to keep up his persona?

The man of the people,is the persona he becomes when he is Batman....

Going to rich people parties and stroking checks doesn't really make you a man of the people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he doesn't put honest effort into getting his hands dirty with actual charity work, but I don't think he comes across as a man of the people to most.

He's my man that's why... He don't have to be your man....

Honestly though the charity is part of his identity, as Bruce Wayne... He has to put in the effort, living up to the Wayne name and all...

And the real effort is the thankless kind, the kind where you get your hands dirty...Man of the people... People with askew morals, and slight anger problems... I think so...

Bruce Wayne is a 1%er no way is he a man of the people. Gtfo with that noise.

Bruce Wayne is penis, but not Batman... Not his core make up...

BTW. The Joker gets all the press, but Poison Ivy has always been my #2. Aside from being a fox she's one of the only female super villains who was never a love interest. She's as crazy and ruthless as any of the men, and she brings the sci fi/horror to boot.

Imma get to you later on this, cause I gotta go to work...

What do you mean he gets all the press? I feel like they share equal popularity both batman and the joker... For ever lover of justice, there is a lover of chaos and, destruction... And for each person there has to be a protagonist they can identify with.. There is a sense of freedom and release being able to be that free, to where you can be that evil, if that's who you truly are and as much as it's not my personal cup of tea, I can see it, understand it, and feel the joker represents that for people who are that way.... But there is also a power and spot light sharing that goes on between the two, much like the struggle present with in most people, whether they are aware of it or not... It's yin and yang baby...

So I disagree with the argument that the joker gets all the press...

How do you figure she wasn't a love interest? There are soo many villains in in Batman's rouges gallery she could have been getting it upside down and sideways, she didn't necessarily have to be getting it from the dark knight... You don't know, nosy... And don't tell me you wouldn't sell your soul for one night in her bedroom...You naughty thing you...

How do you forget about the awesomeness that is Harley Quinn, there was no method to her madness the girl was a crazy as crack, so you know not only was she the kinda broad that would tie you to a chair and pull your finger nails out with pliers, she would also keep you laughing in the most sadistic and taboo ways... Hott!!

I swore I posted a response to this earlier. Maybe it didn't go through and now Roxy beat me to it but she was a love interest to Harley Quinn actually.

hott!!

superman wears more hair gel, batman is more badass. superman is the guy who goes to country clubs and wears light blue clothin for leisure

how does superman afford to go to country clubs on a news reporter's salary?

I think you are mixing him up with Bruce Wayne the muckity muck that goes to country clubs and plays golf.

you wear it for work on the chain gang duh..

Ha! You can't honestly tell me that he doesn't rip the back of an atm if the situation calls for it...really in your heart of hearts... keep waiting for the savior and steller human being that won't come...we all have a dark side, we all have skeletons... and we all given that amount of power, would most likely abuse it at one point or another through life, no matter how many times you took ethics class... because one can compartmentalize, and rationalize, out of necessity and dire circumstance thus making the situational ethics optional...

STICK THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT!!

you forget that he isn't a flawed human being though, he's an alien from another planet. So he wouldn't abuse his powers.

Not everyone is as damaged as you want them to be.

To be human is to be frail, to be strong is to endure, to endure is to be living, my friend, every soul is put through trials and tribulations... Some indeed do deal with it better then others, but to say that I want someone to be damaged is preposterous, what I want, is to learn from my damages, and help others learn from theirs as well.. And to turn a blind eye to the things that shape us as human beings, is denial in one form or another, just as our happiest of moments shape our connections with others so do our damages, and I do not understand how people can go through life and not see their own flaws, it takes a brave person to look in the mirror, but braver still to fight, the things that haunt and hurt them...

Just because he was born on Krypton doesn't mean he wasn't raised as one of us... So all our inherently flawed character make up was passed on to him just by being raised by humans, whether it is conscious or subconscious... It's a heredity vs environment argument, all of it's own...

If you want to go with the the whole raised argument. Then look at his parents and how he was raised. He was raised by two parents that have a strong moral code that they passed onto him and helped him to understand not to abuse his powers for weakness of the flesh/pleasure.

That's why he has the rep of being a goody two shoes, boy scout. He even pissed Wonder Woman off in the Justice League because of how strongly he sticks to his moral code when she decided to do certain actions that weren't on the up and up.

Batman, because he has a krytonite ring in his belt, so ofc he would win.

I was talking about just villains. And I do kinda identify with the Joker. Not in a murdery way, but his whole philosophy of the world being screwed up to the point where he's decided to take it as a joke. I've long since given up giving a **** about politics, the nature of man, the direction of society, etc and now take amusement in many things that my fellow people insist on caring about.

I would.

I love Harley, but I can't really take her seriously as a villain. She's the Robin to the Joker's Batman.


Like as in an actual love interest? I always thought that was a fanboy fantasy rather than anything real.

I thought they were a real couple after awhile but they were just really close friends and yeah they are a fanboy fantasy.

I looked it up to make sure. I thought them being a couple was mentioned in the Sirens series but looking it up to refreshing my memory showed nothing of the sort.

FanBoy or no Fanboy still hott...


Are you referring to the animated series? Because yes she was sorta down played....

Actually the cartoon was where she came from. She was just so popular that they added her in the comic too. But still. She's a sidekick. And she doesn't bring the sci fi/horror.

She does have super strength though and Poison Ivy gave her immunity to poisons.

I like her humor far more than J-man that she's always fawning over.

You are correct there...but she does bring, psychosis, and gives the joker a certain folie au deux...that can't be achieved by the joker alone...

I always thought it was a thing about the Joker that his jokes are usually lame.

Another reason why the cartoon was brilliant. She could have easily been a boring, throw away character, but she turned out to be a perfect showcase for the Joker's craziness that kind of got lost since he couldn't go around murdering people on a kid's show.

But he should have... Batman Beyond thoughts?

I'd have loved it if they did. I guess the moment has passed, but it would be epic if they'd done a more adult version.

And I loved Beyond. Pretty much every DC cartoon they were doing were absolute gold. Even Superman cartoon was pretty damn good. And I was a teenager when Batman Beyond came around so it was perfect timing. That was another thing that could have fallen on its face, but they did the perfect thing with the relationship between Bruce and Terry. A mirror of the father/son thing with Batman and Robin but with a depressing vibe due to Bruce's failures in the past.

Yes, they did do it well I loved it... I enjoyed the constant futurized darkness, and still using Kevin Connory was brilliant...

I gotta say the superman done by Paul Dini was good too, so...Any of that era kids show I dig, and I didn't get into them till my late teens very early 20's...

You ever watch the new x men? x men evolution, well done as well....

X-Men Evolution was pretty awesome. An obvious ripoff of the whole teen Batman thing from Beyond, but it was still awesome. I can't be sure, but I think it was actually better than the old X-Men cartoon from the nineties. I had serious nostalgia for that show, but then I went back and watched some old episodes and realized that the writing was kind of lazy and two-dimensional and the dialogue mostly crappy one-liners. Kind of shattered some old childhood memories.

:clap: but still a classic love...still a classic, but evolution was the ****..

As far as childhood nostalgia goes, then yes it is. But in the cold light of day it's really not. It's just good enough to enthrall children. Rogue was a pretty well done character though.

Gambit? The only gambit I prefer is the one from the old school cartoon Gambit he was well done also....

He was a cool idea, but in the end he was just a collection of one-liners just like all the rest of them. Rogue was the only one who really had a compelling character arc.

Plus she was hot.

Indeed. She may very well have given me my first boner. Or at least she would've had I been boner capable at the age of six. I'm not saying they didn't go a good way with her character in the movies, but I'm still sad that they didn't make her boner bait.

Ana Paquinn isnt that hot so I agree...Jean always smoked Rouge,in the hotness factor...In my book anyways...She was insanely hot in the movies...I have to say though, X-men last stand was a showcase of hot...(As far as the films go.)

Well they decided to go with teen Rogue instead of having her be an adult which was a major gripe of mines.

Because she was underage?