That is why I brought it up. And this post was from 20 minutes ago, not when you first joined.

As for hearing rap that is beyond the mainstream:
Where are you sitting, right now?
What are you sitting if front of?
If the answer to the last question was "Computer" then continue
Does your computer have a keyboard?
Does your computer have a mouse?
Does your computer have an active internet connection?

Use these resources to broaden your musical taste. Trust me, it works. You will find great music that you never thought you would like, or that even existed.

To find good rap check out:
Atmosphere
Immortal Technique
GZA
Nas
Public Enemy
Diabolic
Gangstarr (Guru)

oh i know and thank you for pointing all of these things out hun. and sweetie, because i don't watch tv nor listen to the radio, i doon't know what all the hot bands are... and i have found at least 30 bands in the past 6 months on this comnputer of mine that i adore.. and i found more that i really hate.. i give many types of music a chance. i'm not as big of a noob and you think i am. i choose not to listen to rap because i really don't want to, i don't see a reason to, it doesn't interest me. Its not the lack of intruments or the lyircs.. its the sound, the way rappers rap that bugs me the must.. i prefer singing.. and thats it.

EDIT: it gets rather annoying when every time i post back to you.. i find that you have edited your post and changed and or added more..
i used to listen to..

puff daddy
mase
public enemy
2 pac
run dmc
etc...

It angers you that I suggested music for you?
That is odd.

when did i say it angered me??

i said it annoy's me that you always edit your post after i posted... or during because then it doesn't make full sense when i respond to you.. thats all i was pointing out.. and go right ahead tell me about "good" bands to you, i'm open to new music, i'm just explaining to you that rap is not the type of music that interest me.

To find good rap listen to aesop rock and jedi mind tricks.

But some of the stuff bill posted is decent.

I was going to post JMT because they are my favorite underground at the moment, but I didn't know if she would like it. I thought that it would be better if I posted PE instead.

wow, well, i see i was wrong about a lot, but, damn, im sorry

cant we all just be friends?

I think indie's a genre the same way emo's a genre. I mean come on, emo = emotional. Therefore, isn't all music emo?

Independant labels are getting kind of huge, too. Ex. Epitaph.

Wow how long it take you to figure that out?