i have problems with the overall concept of this poll system, VERY good bands *cough white stripes cough* arent making the cut when in reality they really should because alot of people like them. However, the basis of this whole event isnt to establish the BEST, its to establish the FAVOURITE band(s) on mb, if it was the best it was just be a generic list comprising of the beatles, zeppelin, the stones, hendrix, the clash etc etc etc - wheres the fun in that?

Agreed. I wasn't aware of that until swimintheundertow's post. Again, I thought we were deciding who was the "best".

Band X
Band Y

say band X is your favorite of the two, you enjoy listening to them more. Surely then, you think that band X is BETTER than band Y, and hence is the BEST band? In your opinion, of course. It surely doesn't matter if there's a variation in style or technical proficiency - is the better band not the one that inspires the best and strongest feelings and emotions in you? To me, that band is better at making music. And hence, "the best". Not overall, because other people will think differently. But to me.

If you like Hendrix best and think his music is better than Dinosaur Jr, fine. But there's no given right to deny anyone else winning this. And there's no given right to deny that ANY OF THE OTHER BANDS COULD BE BETTER THAN HIM, in another person's mind.

If someone could plz explain to me why Jimi Hendrix is definitely, without any doubt, the "best" artist on this poll, please do so. Or am I wrong when I say the quality (QUALITY!) of any art is always subjective?

I'll respond directly with bolded text.

Mk?

Hendrix

This may be your undoing Crowe, but I agree and abck you 100%.

I've been the old man in the corner blabbing about this sort of thing forever. I'm just happy someone I've always considered intelligent is backing me up.

Haha. I'm glad I'm being understood at least. For awhile I thought that maybe I just wasn't articulating my case well. But some people are so concerned about being "right" that they refuse to acknowledge or consider the points made by other people. Which I think is White Lies' problem here.

I usually agree with you actually. I don't post a lot of "Yeah I agree" posts because I'm lazy - but you and I see eye to eye on most things.

Yeah, I think I may take a stab at it again once this is all done, because alot of the polls seem to be like that. This is more of a trial run, sort of. Theres alot of things i'll do differently next time.

Also (I didn't bother reading through the argument I more skimmed because I didn't see the point in reading through the whole thing), i'll be more specific in the future. I didn't really think people would be super technical over my choice in words, pick whatever band you want based on whatever criteria you choose to vote, best, favorite, coolest name, w/e.

Everything matter when winning is your goal.

I ask you; what is the point of music? To enjoy it, and to inspire emotions within you? That's what I look for. And if a pop-punk band can do that more effectively than a classical musician, then I won’t deny that I find the pop-punk band better than the classical artist, even if that seems ridiculous to "clasically trained" musicians who obviously look for different things.

I want music to be passionate, with interesting lyrics that can make a statement, that can encourage the listener and get them to think. That's what makes music good, to me. There are lots of bands who haven't had the chance to be classically trained are still perfectly capable of writing music that many people will find to hit all the right spots. I's all about the listener and what they look for, though. To me, there is more passion and substance in early Dinosaur Jr albums than I’ve ever heard from any Hendrrx.


You are correct, you didn't deny it. But you implied it was ridiculous and somehow wrong that Dinosaur Jr were beating Hendrx, and that people could possibly think that Dino were better. The fact you thought this was about "the best band" or whatever is IRRELEVANT. I am not discounting your right to state your opinion, I'm saying that don't spout bull**** like "musically blasphemous" just because the band you think (THINK, my friend) is better isn't winning. It was yr attitude, and how you seemed to think it was outside the realm of possibility that Dinosaur Jr could've made better music than Jimi Hendrix. For example:


Not a fact. An opinion.

see above

Prove that Hendrix is the best, and everyone knows that that is a fact. Then I'll concede you have a point.

Or people think Dinosaur Jr is better than Hendrix? BETTER. THE BEST of the two. Yeah, that'll be it.

Clearly. Since you understand that people have a different idea of what "the best" is, you (hopefully) can now recognize that there is no artist who SHOULD win the poll, whether it be someone's favorite OR who they regard "the best". So let people vote whatever way they want, and don't be a pompous ******* about it.

good day.