I listen to everything from Godspeed You! Black Emperor to Dean Martin. Immortal Technique to Feist, Islands to Explosions in the Sky to Wu-Tang Clan. To say your statement is unwarranted is an understatement.

I just don't like Buns and Toasties except for the track ROCKET QUEEN.

Maybe because Axl's sex scene kept you from becoming disinterested. ;)

How transparent I'm becoming!

I can quite happy listen to a Can song that lasts half an hour with no effort. It's not the length of it. If this song was 2 minutes long it would still be 2 minutes too long.

Not to mention most of GnRs big singles other than November Rain are considerably long for popular rock songs. Especially Paradise City, Patience and Civil War. All are over 5 minutes.

I can understand the dislike for a November Rain, a big pomp rock epic with strings and David Gilmour-ish guitar solos is not what you would expect from the same guys who did songs like Mr Brownstone and Nighttrain.

But I still think its a good song, and as far as pure Rock N Roll bands trying to diversify themselves by doing ballads and epics go, GnR has been far more successful at it than any other c0ck rock band that has attempted to go that route (see *Aerosmith, *KISS).

I'm completely incapable of understanding how you can listen to a band who does long, inaccessible songs like Aumgn, yet diss Yes and King Crimson for the same reason, bands that actually have the talent to do long, complex compositions.

When Can do it it's often very amaterish and clumsy. For some reason that appeals to you?

Are you sure about that?

Guns n Roses decline basically started around the time Use Your Illusion (Which didn't sell anywhere near what was predicted) came out ,the less said about what happened after that the better really. Aerosmith are selling more records now than they ever did in the 70s , even if I do hate everything they put out these days.

That was more because of the tensions in the band and Axl completely losing it than the success of those albums, since both UYI albums went 7 times platinum, by no means a failure.

Also when I said "successful" I didn't quite mean financial success. I meant that if I were to choose between even the worst songs off the UYI albums and practically everything Aerosmith and KISS have done since the 1980s, that would be a no brainer.

Well there's probably some truth in that.
Personally I lost any interest in GnR the day Izzy Stradlin left.
He always struck me as the one that kept them grounded from making those type of songs. I don't think it's a coincidence he left so soon after UYI came out.

I just thought of something, I really can't stand that KISS song, "I was made for lovin' you" It's DISCO!!! There were other 70's "rock" bands that caved and cut disco tracks in rock's disguise. I just can't think of then right now.