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Kevorkian Logic 10-04-2007 03:14 PM

Kevorkian's Newbie Thread.
 
I realize that many people can't just start listening to bands like Captain Beefheart or Boris So i'm going to do an expiated form of how I came to like the music I like today. And hopefully, by the end, some of y'all will have a much more refined palate of musical tastes.

I'm going to skip over the whole pop face that I went through pre-sixth grade and start with Punk. I was introduced to Punk by neighbor's grandson who happened to be my boyfriend at the time the drummer (he still is in fact) in Punk band greatly influenced by the Misfits. Anyhow he lent me the cds by the Ramones, The Clash, The Damned and NoFX and from there I music never meant the same thing to me.

Here are some good Punk albums to start with

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The Ramones-Ramones
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This album started it all. You can hear so the influence of this band, especially this cd, in punk bands everywhere.
Standout tracks: "Blitzkrieg Bop" "53rd and 3rd," and "Today Your Love, Tomorrow the World."

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NoFx- Punk In Drublic
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By far their best cd. I don't waste my time with much of their newer stuff, they have taken too much of a political swing imo. They have earned their place in the Punk Hall of fame, they're not on the same echelon as The Ramones or The Clash, but they're still good.
Standout tracks: "Linoleum," "Leave it Alone," and "The Brews."


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Green Day- Dookie
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Another band where i'm not too fond of their later stuff. They took a political swing as well. You may be more familiar and comfortable listening to this band though because for some reason you were won over by "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "American Idiot."
Standout tracks: "Welcome to Paradise," "Burnout," and "Longview"



I'll do The Clash, Misfits, and the Damned tomorrow.

GravitySlips 10-04-2007 03:33 PM

NOFX to Beefheart...I could've done with this thread when I was 14.

I'm interested in your musical progression though, I wonder if it's similar to my own.

Kevorkian Logic 10-04-2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitySlips (Post 403491)
NOFX to Beefheart...I could've done with this thread when I was 14.

I'm interested in your musical progression though, I wonder if it's similar to my own.

it very well could be. I doubt my progression is an uncommon one. Can you map your progression for me?

GravitySlips 10-04-2007 04:21 PM

very roughly:

- Blink 182
- Green Day, Offspring
- NOFX, Bad Religion, Rancid, ska-punk (the genre)
- Ramones, The Clash
- Descendents
- Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Misfits, Bad Brains
- Minutemen, Husker Du, Fugazi
- Sonic Youth (the main band that basically changed my ideas about music)
- Big Black, Butthole Surfers, Jesus Lizard
- Velvet Underground, Stooges, Television, Talking Heads
- British post-punk and NY no-wave

From there, I got into all sorts of things at once, really. Post-punk was the centrepoint of my taste in music.

- I checked out The Jesus and Mary Chain, which led to My Bloody Valentine, and shoegaze
- Fugazi led to Unwound, Rites of Spring and Drive Like Jehu...and then onto experimental "emo" and post-hardcore music.
- The Fall, This Heat and Swell Maps led to "krautrock" like Can and Faust
- stuff like Pere Ubu led to Beefheart, The Residents, and from there onto generally weird and experimental music.

by this time I was also checking out indie and alternative classics like Slint (which led to "math-rock" i guess), Pavement, Pixies and Beat Happening.

Overall, post-punk has probably been my biggest musical influence.

that was fun!

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-04-2007 04:22 PM

I did something like a personal music timeline somewhere or other , may have to do one here too.

sleepy jack 10-04-2007 04:25 PM

I would do one but i'm too embarrassed <.<

Kevorkian Logic 10-04-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitySlips (Post 403509)
very roughly:

- Blink 182
- Green Day, Offspring
- NOFX, Bad Religion, Rancid, ska-punk (the genre)
- Ramones, The Clash
- Descendents
- Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Misfits, Bad Brains
- Minutemen, Husker Du, Fugazi
- Sonic Youth (the main band that basically changed my ideas about music)
- Big Black, Butthole Surfers, Jesus Lizard
- Velvet Underground, Stooges, Television, Talking Heads
- British post-punk and NY no-wave

From there, I got into all sorts of things at once, really. Post-punk was the centrepoint of my taste in music.

- I checked out The Jesus and Mary Chain, which led to My Bloody Valentine, and shoegaze
- Fugazi led to Unwound, Rites of Spring and Drive Like Jehu...and then onto experimental "emo" and post-hardcore music.
- The Fall, This Heat and Swell Maps led to "krautrock" like Can and Faust
- stuff like Pere Ubu led to Beefheart, The Residents, and from there onto generally weird and experimental music.

by this time I was also checking out indie and alternative classics like Slint (which led to "math-rock" i guess), Pavement, Pixies and Beat Happening.

Overall, post-punk has probably been my biggest musical influence.

that was fun!

it's actually similar in many points. Adjust a few band names here and there, add a couple of rungs in various places, and it would be almost the same.

GravitySlips 10-04-2007 04:40 PM

nice -- I'll keep an eye on this thread to see what's goin' down.

Kevorkian Logic 10-04-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 403510)
I did something like a personal music timeline somewhere or other , may have to do one here too.

it takes forever. And i've only done the first 3 bands. (maybe it's just upping the music that makes me think its time consuming)

jackhammer 10-05-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 403512)
I would do one but i'm too embarrassed <.<

Never be embarrassed about old musical tastes, it shapes who we are now.

cardboard adolescent 10-05-2007 12:16 PM

This box set changed my life:

No Thanks! The '70s Punk Rebellion
1.1 Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
1.2 The Clash - White Riot
1.3 Nick Lowe - Heart of the City
1.4 Buzz****s featuring Howard Devoto - Boredom
1.5 The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
1.6 The Damned - Neat Neat Neat
1.7 The Jam - In the City
1.8 Pere Ubu - Final Solution
1.9 The Modern Lovers - Roadrunner
1.10 Television - Little Johnny Jewel
1.11 The Adverts - One Chord Wonders
1.12 The Heartbreakers - Born to Lose
1.13 The Stooges - Search and Destroy
1.14 Mink Deville - Let Me Dream If I Want To (Amphetamine Blues)
1.15 X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage Up Yours!
1.16 Wire - 1 2 X U
1.17 Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation
1.18 The Stranglers - (Get A) Grip (On Yourself)
1.19 The Runaways - Cherry Bomb
1.20 New York Dolls - Personality Crisis
1.21 Eddie and the Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
1.22 The Dictators - Two Tub Man
1.23 Patti Smith - Hey Joe (Version)
1.24 Generation X - Your Generation
2.1 Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
2.2 The Adverts - Gary Gilmore's Eyes
2.3 Ultravox - Sat'day Night in the City of the Dead
2.4 Buzz****s - What Do I Get?
2.5 Blondie - X Offender
2.6 The Boomtown Rats - Lookin' After No. 1
2.7 Penetration - Don't Dictate
2.8 The Fall - Bingo Master
2.9 Patti Smith - Free Money
2.10 The Jam - The Modern World
2.11 The Heartbreakers - Chinese Rocks
2.12 The Damned - New Rose
2.13 Subway Sect - Ambition
2.14 Television - See No Evil
2.15 Stiff Little Fingers - Suspect Device
2.16 Wire - Mannequin
2.17 The Vibrators - Baby Baby
2.18 Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Love Comes in Spurts
2.19 The Boys - First Time
2.20 Dead Boys - Sonic Reducer
2.21 Magazine - Shot By Both Sides
2.22 Elvis Costello - Mystery Dance
2.23 New York Dolls - Trash
2.24 X-Ray Spex - The Day the World Turned Day-Glo
2.25 Eddie and the Hot Rods - Do Anything You Wanna Do
3.1 Generation X - Ready Steady Go
3.2 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
3.3 Ian Dury - Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll
3.4 Buzz****s - Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)
3.5 Suicide - Rocket U.S.A.
3.6 Devo - Mongoloid
3.7 999 - Homicide
3.8 The Dils - Mr. Big
3.9 Joy Division - Warsaw
3.10 Mekons - Where Were You?
3.11 The Germs - Lexicon Devil
3.12 The Rezillos - (My Baby Does) Good Sculptures
3.13 Pretenders - The Wait
3.14 The Weirdos - We Got the Neutron Bomb
3.15 The Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso
3.16 Alternative TV - Action Time Vision
3.17 Tom Robinson Band - 2-4-6-8 Motorway
3.18 The Avengers - We Are the One
3.19 Sham 69 - Borstal Breakout
3.20 Black Flag - Wasted
3.21 Ramones - Sheena Is a Punk Rocker
3.22 Fear - I Love Livin in the City
3.23 The Boomtown Rats - She's so Modern
3.24 Rich Kids - Ghosts of Princes in Towers
3.25 X - We're Desperate
3.26 The ****ies - You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla)
3.27 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away
4.1 Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
4.2 Blondie - Hanging on the Telephone
4.3 The Rezillos - Top of the Pops
4.4 X - Adult Books
4.5 The Members - The Sound of the Suburbs
4.6 Dead Kennedys - California über alles
4.7 The Only Ones - Another Girl, Another Planet
4.8 The Soft Boys - (I Want to be An) Anglepoise Lamp
4.9 Elvis Costello - Radio, Radio
4.10 The Slits - Typical Girls
4.11 The Cramps - Human Fly
4.12 Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
4.13 The Ruts - Babylon's Burning
4.14 Sham 69 - If the Kids Are United
4.15 Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster
4.16 The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
4.17 The Pop Group - She Is Beyond Good and Evil
4.18 Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him?
4.19 The Undertones - Get Over You
4.20 Gang of Four - Love Like Anthrax
4.21 The Stranglers - Peaches
4.22 The Skids - Into the Valley
4.23 Johnny Thunders - You Can't Put Your Arms Round a Memory
4.24 Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart

Kevorkian Logic 10-05-2007 04:51 PM

^it should be mandatory that every child owns this by the age of 15. Out of curiosity who gave it to you? Or did you find it yourself?

cardboard adolescent 10-05-2007 05:23 PM

Kyle, actually.

anticipation 10-05-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent (Post 403782)
This box set changed my life:

No Thanks! The '70s Punk Rebellion
1.1 Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
1.2 The Clash - White Riot
1.3 Nick Lowe - Heart of the City
1.4 Buzz****s featuring Howard Devoto - Boredom
1.5 The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
1.6 The Damned - Neat Neat Neat
1.7 The Jam - In the City
1.8 Pere Ubu - Final Solution
1.9 The Modern Lovers - Roadrunner
1.10 Television - Little Johnny Jewel
1.11 The Adverts - One Chord Wonders
1.12 The Heartbreakers - Born to Lose
1.13 The Stooges - Search and Destroy
1.14 Mink Deville - Let Me Dream If I Want To (Amphetamine Blues)
1.15 X-Ray Spex - Oh Bondage Up Yours!
1.16 Wire - 1 2 X U
1.17 Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Blank Generation
1.18 The Stranglers - (Get A) Grip (On Yourself)
1.19 The Runaways - Cherry Bomb
1.20 New York Dolls - Personality Crisis
1.21 Eddie and the Hot Rods - Teenage Depression
1.22 The Dictators - Two Tub Man
1.23 Patti Smith - Hey Joe (Version)
1.24 Generation X - Your Generation
2.1 Iggy Pop - Lust for Life
2.2 The Adverts - Gary Gilmore's Eyes
2.3 Ultravox - Sat'day Night in the City of the Dead
2.4 Buzz****s - What Do I Get?
2.5 Blondie - X Offender
2.6 The Boomtown Rats - Lookin' After No. 1
2.7 Penetration - Don't Dictate
2.8 The Fall - Bingo Master
2.9 Patti Smith - Free Money
2.10 The Jam - The Modern World
2.11 The Heartbreakers - Chinese Rocks
2.12 The Damned - New Rose
2.13 Subway Sect - Ambition
2.14 Television - See No Evil
2.15 Stiff Little Fingers - Suspect Device
2.16 Wire - Mannequin
2.17 The Vibrators - Baby Baby
2.18 Richard Hell & the Voidoids - Love Comes in Spurts
2.19 The Boys - First Time
2.20 Dead Boys - Sonic Reducer
2.21 Magazine - Shot By Both Sides
2.22 Elvis Costello - Mystery Dance
2.23 New York Dolls - Trash
2.24 X-Ray Spex - The Day the World Turned Day-Glo
2.25 Eddie and the Hot Rods - Do Anything You Wanna Do
3.1 Generation X - Ready Steady Go
3.2 The Undertones - Teenage Kicks
3.3 Ian Dury - Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll
3.4 Buzz****s - Ever Fallen in Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)
3.5 Suicide - Rocket U.S.A.
3.6 Devo - Mongoloid
3.7 999 - Homicide
3.8 The Dils - Mr. Big
3.9 Joy Division - Warsaw
3.10 Mekons - Where Were You?
3.11 The Germs - Lexicon Devil
3.12 The Rezillos - (My Baby Does) Good Sculptures
3.13 Pretenders - The Wait
3.14 The Weirdos - We Got the Neutron Bomb
3.15 The Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso
3.16 Alternative TV - Action Time Vision
3.17 Tom Robinson Band - 2-4-6-8 Motorway
3.18 The Avengers - We Are the One
3.19 Sham 69 - Borstal Breakout
3.20 Black Flag - Wasted
3.21 Ramones - Sheena Is a Punk Rocker
3.22 Fear - I Love Livin in the City
3.23 The Boomtown Rats - She's so Modern
3.24 Rich Kids - Ghosts of Princes in Towers
3.25 X - We're Desperate
3.26 The ****ies - You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla)
3.27 The Motors - Dancing the Night Away
4.1 Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hong Kong Garden
4.2 Blondie - Hanging on the Telephone
4.3 The Rezillos - Top of the Pops
4.4 X - Adult Books
4.5 The Members - The Sound of the Suburbs
4.6 Dead Kennedys - California über alles
4.7 The Only Ones - Another Girl, Another Planet
4.8 The Soft Boys - (I Want to be An) Anglepoise Lamp
4.9 Elvis Costello - Radio, Radio
4.10 The Slits - Typical Girls
4.11 The Cramps - Human Fly
4.12 Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
4.13 The Ruts - Babylon's Burning
4.14 Sham 69 - If the Kids Are United
4.15 Stiff Little Fingers - Alternative Ulster
4.16 The Cure - Boys Don't Cry
4.17 The Pop Group - She Is Beyond Good and Evil
4.18 Joe Jackson - Is She Really Going Out With Him?
4.19 The Undertones - Get Over You
4.20 Gang of Four - Love Like Anthrax
4.21 The Stranglers - Peaches
4.22 The Skids - Into the Valley
4.23 Johnny Thunders - You Can't Put Your Arms Round a Memory
4.24 Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart


i thought i was the only one who owned this :)
due to this amazing boxset, my musical tastes aren't completely garbage,
and i still listen to it on occasion.

jackhammer 10-05-2007 06:30 PM

^^
I have a few tracks and i have heard of virtually all of them, but an up for this would be awesome.

Kevorkian Logic 10-05-2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardboard adolescent (Post 403856)
Kyle, actually.

I just gained a fair bit more respect for him.

Kevorkian Logic 10-06-2007 07:03 AM

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Rancid-...And Out Come The Wolves
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About 4 years ago this album was in my top 10, I had nothing but respect for it. Rancid is a traditionally ska/punk band that borders mainly on the punk side. And excellent record imo to get into the punk phase of mind considering the lyrics are full of topics such as heroin, girls, and government
Standout tracks- "roots radicals," "Time Bomb," "Ruby Soho," and "Daly City Train"

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The Clash- London Calling
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This was the Clash's breakthrough album, seeing as it incorporated many different genres. Songs like "London Calling" and "Clampdown" are some of the real punk songs on the album. While a song like "Train in Vain" is very similar to a mainstream rock song. "Brand New Cadillac" and "Jimmy Jazz" do have that distinct punk sound, but they are almost classic swing songs with distortion. "Rudie Can't Fail" and "Wrong 'Em Boyo" are close to being Pop Rock songs. This album transcends just being a punk classic, for I believe it a rock classic as well.
Standout Tracks- See above for what description of song you want to hear


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The Misfits-Walk Among Us
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Although I do like American Psycho a lot, and suggest all of you go out and listen to it at least once, i'm going to plug Walk Among Us. When I came home from my bf's house with American Psycho and Walk Among Us in my hands she insisted upon examing the music. She was appalled at such song titles like "Mommy, Can I Go Out And Kill Tonight?" and "Devils Whorehouse" and told me I had to return them to my bf the next morning when I saw him. However I just went straight upstairs loaded them on the computer and that was that. So yea, that little anecdote's point is to say that the Misfits belong to a certain genre of punk called Horror Punk. Anyhow Walk Among Us was Misfits first album and considered is considered one of those must have punk albums.

I'll do the Damned later today. Then i'm taking on metal and rock.


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