What do you call selling out?
 

Well there are tons of people for almost any band that wil say "o ya hey suck cus they sold out"...blahblahblah I think some people just say bands sell out cus they think its cool to do so, or just dont like the bands music anymore.

So please, tell me (and everyone else here) what is your definition of selling out? and what are a few examples of bands that have?

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I think its when a band changes there music style to fit a company like MTV.
I DONT think its when they change it to sell more records, cus pretty much every band does that.

ex: Blink 182, Greenday

It is when a band changes to sell records, because then they're going with a more commercial, easier to digest sound, basically forsaking artistic achievement for money. Doesn't have to be to fit a corporation, although it usually is.

Yeah, pretty much nailed it.

But how about if they change there style some so they can sell records, because otherwise they wouldnt be able to stay a band. Its kind of neccisery a lot of times, because for some bands the audience is so small for there particular nitch of music its hard for them to stay together.

idk maybe im wrong, iv never quite understood it fully

If you change to sell more records you've sold out. No matter what the motive.

i guess the question then is, how do you determine when a band has changed because of there own personal tastes changing, or for the industry (selling out)

i think that is the reason for most people disagreeing. i know there are many bands i feel "sold out" that other people think that it was 100% a change in the bands music style. o well we shall never know!

Why would a band need money to stay together?

If they're changing to a more commercial sound then it doesn't matter. They're still selling out.

The definition of selling out...Mick Hucknell.

From the forefront of punk...to mainstream soul/pop.

I hope you kidding. I don't mean this in a cruel way its just i have been in a few bands before, and without money its EXTREMELY hard to stay together. Equipment is really expensive, and if your doing it full time with no other source of money its pretty hard to live on nothing. I wish this wasnt the case, but unfortanitly it is.

It sure would be nice tho if equipment wasn't so expensive, especially for drummers :(