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jackhammer 12-11-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by British_pharaoh (Post 421369)
Patti Smith can piss off right out of that list

Hmmm. An iconic and underated STRONG female band leader with bags of attitude. Yeah I see where you are coming from. How dare poetry be in modern music?!

teshadoh 12-12-2007 09:05 AM

^ Perhaps he is referring to her 'influences'. I would prefer to think she influenced PJ Harvey rather than Madonna.

Dizzys in the wolf 12-12-2007 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by teshadoh (Post 421308)
The Strokes -

I can imagine they felt the need to include an album from this decade, just as they chose obligatory picks from other varoius music genres. But besides it being difficult to gauge the influence in such a short period of 6 years, I don't find anything the Strokes did to be that original. I especially don't see the connection to Franz Ferdinand, which along with Bloc Party were influence more by the rebirth / rehashing of 80's new wave & particularly the band the Police (who were not listed).

The strokes have influenced a very high percentage of English Indie bands since they started, and those bands would not exist if it had not been for them and their influence. If it was not for The Strokes and The White Stripes guitar music would still be on the decline except for nu metal bands like Papa Roach and the like. I think they are pretty vital as a band that changed music.

I do not agree with Patti Smith, Although I am a fan of hers I don't think she changed music in any way along with Nirvana. Although they gave people an easy way in to grunge music or heavier music they only really opened the door to what was already there rather than changing music itself.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-12-2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzys in the wolf (Post 421569)
The strokes have influenced a very high percentage of BAD English Indie bands since they started,

My opinion on the matter

Dizzys in the wolf 12-12-2007 12:06 PM

Changing music for better or for worse is still changing music.

ProggyMan 12-12-2007 04:04 PM

The Strokes didn't change music they just made a certain form of it more popular.

Brock_West 12-12-2007 04:35 PM

well if changing music for the worse counts than Nirvana should be up near the top.

lucifer_sam 08-10-2008 10:28 PM

Thought I might resurrect this thread to provoke some interesting discussion... My votes for the off-ones:

Mary J. Blige - What's The 411?
The Spice Girls - Spice
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Chic - Chic
The Strokes - Is This It?
Nirvana - Nevermind

It's not that I hate those albums (well, maybe the Spice Girls), but that I don't feel like they brought anything new to music, even for the time in which they were made.

boo boo 08-11-2008 01:42 AM

I think Thriller should be there, it's one of my favorite albums and it had pretty massive influence, even though it was mostly negative influence, it was still influence.

Anyway, what a bunch of idiots, what horrible reasoning and a horribly written article overall. They really make me wish The Smiths never existed the way they describe it. No Libertines? Oh noes.

And yeah, In The Court of the Crimson King pretty much f*cking started progressive rock but that ain't important enough, that's nothing compared to the massive influence and innovation of The Spice Girls, right? And you gotta throw in more punk albums than you need, as usual.

Clearly kids made this, because their music history is incredibly faulty. Without DSOTM there wouldn't have been as much prog rock?

Um no, by 1973 prog rock was already declining in popularity. Dumbasses.

Piss Me Off 08-11-2008 03:42 AM

I can't stand lazy articles like this. "This album changed music. Really it did. We're not going to go into any detail in telling you why, but TRUST US."


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