No, SCUM was a very important album.

Updated and we can start debating the removal of albums now. So if there's an album you don't want on there that's on there, post your request for its removal and explain why.

Right then :D

Awta.


In that case it kills me to knock off all Slayer albums other than Reign In Blood
When we get to the 90's Seasons comes into play;)

Cindi Lauper "She's So Unusual"
Did Cindi Lauper even write her own music? Don't answer I don't really care because even if she does it doesn't excuse the fact that her music is awful. She epitomizes everything wrong with America in the 80s, terrible pop music and awful hair.

Madonna "Like a Virgin"
See Cindi Lauper.

Michael Jackson "Thriller"
See Cindi Lauper but throw in an overrated comment as well as a pedophile joke.


That was a 3 in one, I'm done for now.

I take it a couple of the early 80s Metallica albums have already been mentioned...or have they not? If not, I reckon they ought to be.

It's not like every Smiths album is going to end up on the list I just threw them all on there because each is considered classic. I think if we cut it to one album per artist we'll have trouble making up the 100 which will end up with filler. Plus if an artist releases several great albums why shouldn't they get credit?

Thriller is the epitome of overrated, it's not nearly as great or influential on artists that matter as everyone makes it out to be. It's a good pop album but I don't think it's very worthy of being in the top 100.

I'd take both these off & replace them with Rock For Light

We have 168 albums in case anyone was curious. Also rules to removal is basically going to be entirely up to my discretion but most likely if your argument is compelling enough I'll remove it or if a bunch of people back you.

My suggestions for removal and I'll elaborate on them further if someone wants me to.

Bruce Springsteen "Nebraska"
Dead Kennedys "Plastic Surgery Disasters"
Gorilla Biscuits "Start Today"
Madonna "Like a Virgin"
Queen "The Works"
Queen "The Game"
Tears for Fears "The Hurting"
The Smiths "Strangeways, Here We Come"
Van Halen "1984"
Van Halen "Fair Warning"

Before you remove things you should define what this list is about a bit more accurately.

What do you mean by "top 100 albums"?

Best, most influential, most culturally important. That totally effects what should be removed.

e.g. Madonna like a virgin may not be one of the best albums but it would be one of the most influential.
I suggested tons of recording that I don't really like because I was including cultural importance and influence as a determining factor.

What is the criteria?

What did Madonna influence? Really? Britney Spears? I'm growing so tired of these boring 80s pop albums being hyped as influential when in reality all they did was spawn the 90s boy band and girl singer phenomenon.

And the criteria is a combination of best, most liked, most talented, etc. You can say it's not concrete enough whatever, its a list assembled by all the musicbanter members so basically it's what we like and respect not so much what the rest of the world loves.

Here's a few I think should go...

Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band "Doc at the Radar Station"
No means essential , ok but not a patch on his 60/70s stuff

Circle Jerks "Group Sex"
Much better hardcore bands ain't on the list , Posion Idea & The Germs to name but 2.

Death "Leprosy"
Death "Scream Bloody Gore"
Surely we only need one by this band

Fields Of The Nephilim "Fields Of The Nephilim"
Only choosing this because I hate them :D

Sonic Youth "Confusion Is Sex"
Sonic Youth "EVOL"
Never really thought much of these , Daydream Nation is enough.

Slayer "Hell Awaits"
Slayer "Show No Mercy"
Even Slayer look back on these 2 albums & cringe

Talking Heads "Remain In Light"
Nowhere near as good as Fear Of Music , which should be up there.

The Replacements "Pleased to Meet Me"
The Replacements "Tim"
I think Let It Be is enough

The Pogues "Red Roses for Me"
No Rum , Sodomy & The Lash ? :eek:

The Durutti Column "The Return Of The Durutti Column"
1979 , plus Vini Reilly says it's shit.

Pantera "Metal Magic"
:laughing:

You Sir are now on my shít list :D

Germicide didn't really touch GI (79) but I'll swap out Group Sex for a Poison Idea album but they only had two releases neither of which I'm familiar with. Kings of Punk and War All the Time I'll letyou decide which stays.

Swapped out the Pogues album for Rum, Sodomy and the Lash as well as Remain In Light for Fear of Music. Removed the rest. I've also gone ahead and removed the following albums just because I think even fans of them would agree there's much better albums that belong on the list and I even listed reason.

Bruce Springsteen "Nebraska"
I don't care for Springsteen but I think Born in the USA is enough.

Dead Kennedys "Plastic Surgery Disasters"
Fresh Fruit was way way better.

Gorilla Biscuits "Start Today"
I don't really know why I added this in the first place.

Madonna "Like a Virgin"
Posted my reasoning.

Queen "The Works"
Queen started going downhill in the 80s, it started with this album.

Queen "The Game"
They weren't good in the 80s.

Tears for Fears "The Hurting"
:laughing: it's tears for fears

The Smiths "Strangeways, Here We Come"
The Smiths are my favorite band but even I don't care much for this album. It had some really really really good songs like Girlfriend in a Coma and A Rush and A Push etc but most of this album was stuff like I Won't Share You and Unhappy Birthday, which lost their novelty pretty fast and are some of the worst smiths songs.

Why do I keep thinking GI came out in 82 :banghead:


Edit: 1990 Feel the Darkness LP (American Leather)

Ignore that one too :o:

So whats the stance on Van Halen? I realize Eddie was an inventive guitarist and all but Van Halen never struck me as anything more than your typical 80s band that was hyped to death by classic rock fans just because. It's not like having him as your guitarist lends you any credibility or worthiness seeing as he played on a Michael Jackson song.

I'd agree with all those going and also agree "Fear of Music" is better than Remain in Light. I also think "Speaking in Tongues" gives "Fear of Music" a run for its money. It's a pretty good record.

I noticed them missing from your hit-list. IMO 1984 is their best album but I'm not a hardcore fan. I'm sure the real halen fans would opt for "Fair Warning".

I'd vote to keep 1984.

I'd also vote to keep "The Game" There are tons of good tunes on it.
If you put on "Another One Bite the Dust" in any club in the world today it would pack the dance floor.

Whhhaaaaaaattttttttttttt?????
Are you out of your mind???
Metal masterpieces boi!
Show No Mercy is usually peoples fave Slayer album, and they still crack out a number of tunes from it!
Hell Awaits is freaking awesome too!
If Slayer cringe at any albums its the last 4!

Another One Bites the Dust is the most overrated Queen song ever and songs like that are pretty rare for them in the 80s anyway. There discography seems to be made up of crap like Don't Try Suicide and so on. That album marked the start of a terrible period for Queen. They changed everything they did and threw away all their credibility for synthesizers and boring 80s music.

Ok I get it, you don't like queen's bold change in direction.

Anyway thinking of 80s albums sure is stirring up a ton of brain synapses that have not fired in my head for a long time. I just realized there is no SRV on the list. I saw him live about 5 times through the 80s and was always blown away. Coulda been the mushrooms that made me forget. . .

You gotta have:

Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble "Couldn't Stand the Weather"

Which also makes me think of Bowie's "Let's Dance" (his last good record) as he played guitar on that one.

I don't mind bold changes in direction as long as the direction you're going in isn't shit.

There's also a bootleg of the tour rehearsal that he played on before walking out before the tour started.

I think that's a pretty long list but very comprehensive I guess. I was growing in that era and some of the mentioned albums were just really amazing to discover. thanks anyway!

I agree basically with removing the Queen albums, but what are your own reasons for that?



EDIT: Just saw it was answered elsewhere. Soz.

Reign In Blood is a lot better.

It also the one that is usually named as people's favorite Slayer album too.

I said I get it!!

What about adding Stevie Ray Vaughan "Couldn't Stand the Weather"
This record has Cold Shot, Couldn't Stand the Weather, Scuttle Buttin' chock full of good nutrients. Keeps you healthy with soul food.
One record only for SRV!! you can take off a Sonic Youth Record or a Smiths (as if you will) record of your choice.

That record has more good music on than half the list you have up. (including the ones I have suggested that are still up)

Is it good? I'd be very interested to hear it.

Just do a google search for 'Serious Moonlight in Dallas' and you'll come across a couple of downloads for it.

Seasons In the Abyss over all the others tbh.

Came out in 1990. Reign in Blood is their quintessential album and commonly regarded as the finest thrash album, and I for once agree!

I know, I said that 3 pages back.
I was making the point it's better then every other Slayer album.

Seasons > Reign > South > Mercy > Hell

Couldn't figure that one out myself.

More deserving than any other 80s dance album I can think of.

suggestions

buffalo springfield - buffalo springfield-- 60s
Highway to hell - AC/DC-- late 70s
hysteria- def leppard- 80s
beatles- abbey road- late 60s
beatles- i wanna hold your hand-- 60s

Tesla - Mechanical Resonance

CHANGES
COVER QUEEN
BEFORE MY EYES

Three great tracks but the rest of the album was fairly standard 80's rock to me.

This is top 100 album of the 80s...Def Leppard is also hair metal shit and won't be added.

So The Casters list is bollocks then really! Of course it is lol