Originally Posted by TheUsed2lguy (Post 439777)

The original poster does make a good point, but to me, it's fairly obvious why people are so self righteous when it comes to music opinions. It's because people look around at the culture, and say, 'man that sucks,' We see so many things in day to day life that we just say that sucks, and we know it's wrong, and then we find out that some person who we think really sucks listens to Nickelback, and we say, "Ha, I've got you, I can prove you suck, because you listen to Nickelback." Everything done by the mainstream, whether just music, or daily behavior, I tend to see it sucks, and so I love being able to prove myself right when I'm able to say, "Ha, oh you listen to this music, that sucks, or oh, you like to shop, oh that sucks" It helps me feel vindicated.

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 440068)

If you dislike music, or anything for that matter, for such utterly shallow and inane reasons, I think you ought to realize that you suck.

Originally Posted by Rainard Jalen (Post 439553)

well, let's look at the facts. much of the music in question is plainly:

- absolutely shameless in terms of redundancy and use of cliches either in melody, lyrics, chord progressions, instrumental arrangements and general sonic aesthetics; this is a fact, not a subjective observation. it can be shown empirically through gathering information/statistics and by comparison with other pop of the same sort. again: it is NOT some weird opinion that some pompous underground/indie dude invented. claims of redundancy, banality and creative bankruptcy are expressions of actual facts about the structure of the music itself. observable, verifyable phenomena.

- over-produced, so much so that it doesn't even qualify as great over-produced pop


If creativity really matters to a fan of music, the fact is they're not going to have any interest in the likes of Akon, Nickelback, and so on. the question of TASTE only goes so far as whether one's taste is for unoriginal innocuous uninspired pop, or for something a little more daring, risky, edgy and adventurous. Where one goes from that point on, is really down to plain fact.