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Antonio 07-03-2009 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 697524)
Heh, my favorite Davis album. I don't know how you could not like it, it's so accessible for a jazz album.

I mean Bitches Brew, now there's a challenging listen.

it may be the more challenging one, but it's really worth it, seeing as it helped shaped jazz music afterwards with some of the things they did on there. it may sound weird, but with Bitches Brew, once you get it, you really get it


i'm listening to Kind of Blue right now, Blue in Green atm, and i'm starting to agree with Satch on this one. as a regular jazz album it's pretty solid, but as one of the greatest? eh, maybe.

Mirrorball95 07-03-2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 697524)
Heh, my favorite Davis album. I don't know how you could not like it, it's so accessible for a jazz album.

I mean Bitches Brew, now there's a challenging listen.

Damn yeah, I love the Kind Of Blue album. Obviously, it aint his best but its a good album. Overrated?, yes but still a damn good album. As for Bitches Brew, Ive had it for ages and havent really gotten into yet. You should listen to On The Corner.

boo boo 07-03-2009 10:45 AM

Kind of Blue > A Love Supreme.

Yeah, I totally went there.

SATCHMO 07-03-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 697721)
Kind of Blue > A Love Supreme.

Yeah, I totally went there.

Meh, I think both albums are about on par with each other. A Love Supreme was Coltrane's Magnum Opus, while Kinda' Blue, according to Miles and the musicians involved was just another recording session. It was never thought that it was gonna' be a huge record. In all honesty I believe, and I'm not the first person to put this out there, that Kind of Blue is really a Bill Evans record with Miles' name and face on the cover. It's Evans that really holds down the fort for the whole album and it his signature ethereal playing style which gives the album it's magic. IMO There are definitely better Miles Davis albums.

boo boo 07-03-2009 11:47 AM

I'm not taking away the credit from Evans, I have a live album by the Bill Evans Trio and it's fantastic. And you're right it's probably his presence that makes it a favorite for Davis fans, but Davis still deserves credit too.

Bitches Brew, Miles Ahead, Sketches of Spain and On The Corner are other greats. But Kind of Blue probably best defines his cool/modal jazz period, which is my favorite era of his I guess.

I admit to only having heard a small portion of his gigantic discography however.

Alfred 07-03-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 697438)
I don't understand how such an amazing track like The Lotus Eater, can be on album that's so boring.

I don't understand how someone can find Watershed boring.

However, if you liked that song, listen to Ghost Reveries if you haven't already. You might have more luck with that album.

SATCHMO 07-03-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 697765)
I'm not taking away the credit from Evans, I have a live album by the Bill Evans Trio and it's fantastic. And you're right it's probably his presence that makes it a favorite for Davis fans, but Davis still deserves credit too.

Bitches Brew, Miles Ahead, Sketches of Spain and On The Corner are other greats. But Kind of Blue probably best defines his cool/modal jazz period, which is my favorite era of his I guess.

I admit to only having heard a small portion of his gigantic discography however.

Davis' playing is very subdued on Kind of Blue, which isn't abnormal. Davis was always one to give more of a spotlight to his accompanying musicians than to himself. Even Coltrane himself has a greater presence on the record than Miles' does.
Miles Ahead is definitely an album that I would assert is a better album than Kinda' Blue, which is a shame , because its definitely his most underrated album and does not get nearly the credit it deserves. Birth of Cool and Round Midnight, as well are also,i think, more representative of Miles' greatness as a trumpet player and not just as a bandleader/arranger.
I don't argue the greatness of Kind of Blue. It's an amazing album. It has just gotten to the point where it's almost obligatory for a jazz head to avow that Kind of Blue is the greatest jazz album of all time, and I just don't see it.

asshat 07-04-2009 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JJJ567 (Post 683460)
AC/DC- Back in Black
Mindless **** rock with a lead singer that sounds worse than the old one.

Rush- 2112
I found it cheesy, but not in a good way.

Fleetwood Mac- Rumours
I found it on vinyl at a Goodwill. It's okay, but I fail to see what the hype was about.

Ramones- Self-titled
They are catchy, but after a while their songs tend to run together.

Sex Pistols- Nevermind the Bullocks
A lot of hype with little substance.

As far as ac/dc and the ramones go, they each have one trick but they're awesome tricks.

AC/DC make music about their ****s but they don't have any pretensions about being anything more. It's very good music about sex. **** rock that's played with passion is 10 times better than bland cerebral music anyday.

I think the Ramones have really clever lyrics that come across as dumb. I like how all their songs run together and are really short. They did so much with so little.

I still think the pistols rock pretty hard.

rumours and anthem are decent but cheesy.

Unrelenting 07-04-2009 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FaSho (Post 697438)
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I don't understand how such an amazing track like The Lotus Eater, can be on album that's so boring.

I think it's one of Opeth's better albums. The prog rock and metal shines through a little more. Sure, they've lessened the aggression, but it is still there. Heir Apparent is the most aggressive song they've written, there's the aforementioned Lotus Eater, hell, when it comes on Hessian Peel it hits like a hammer. The only song that I found dull on the entire album was Hex Omega

The Unfan 07-05-2009 10:30 PM

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I think I may have asked this before but I don't feel like digging through the thread and if I recall I didn't even get a real answer, just something to the extent of "If you don't get it you don't get it."


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