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Vandyman 03-02-2008 10:31 AM

Stairway rip-off
 
What is the name of the song that Zeppelin ripped off to make Stairway to Heaven?

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 10:32 AM

Spirit "Taurus"

jackhammer 03-02-2008 10:34 AM

What Zeppelin ripped music off someone? No way!.....

Vandyman 03-02-2008 10:51 AM

Thank you Crowquill, that's exactly the song.

sweet_nothing 03-02-2008 11:48 AM

Jesus, they did! I can't wait to shove it in my friends faces.

Vandyman 03-02-2008 01:11 PM

They sure did

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_nothing (Post 449713)
Jesus, they did! I can't wait to shove it in my friends faces.

Good luck, most Zeppelin fanboys try and argue against it even claiming they sound nothing alike. :laughing:

GravitySlips 03-02-2008 04:04 PM

I had a quick listen to that, and it sounded different enough to me. I don't care much for Zeppelin, and I don't know much about guitar, but they're different enough in my eyes in terms of the actual SOUND.

Lizzie 03-02-2008 06:17 PM

Holy ****, I just listened to that song
The guitar intro is identical to the Stairway intro

*Looses all the respect she once had for Led Zeppelin*

Farfisa 03-02-2008 06:20 PM

jesus christ people its only one song.....

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GravitySlips (Post 449786)
I had a quick listen to that, and it sounded different enough to me. I don't care much for Zeppelin, and I don't know much about guitar, but they're different enough in my eyes in terms of the actual SOUND.

How?

Lizzie 03-02-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 449868)
jesus christ people its only one song.....

But it was there most popular song, and the only one I ever liked by them, so....

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by loose_lips_sink_ships (Post 449868)
jesus christ people its only one song.....

Yeah because Led Zeppelin are only guilty of having stolen this one thing. This Zepfanboy denial is ridiculous. You can google Led Zeppelin plagiarisms and you'll find countless examples of musical theft.

Inuzuka Skysword 03-02-2008 06:28 PM

Led Zeppelin's first two albums weren't even written by them, I think. Anyways I don't even like Stairway that much., I am into the stuff on their second album the most. IV wasn't really that good of an album.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-02-2008 06:30 PM

It's no big deal

Oasis ripped off T-Rex's Get It On for Cigarettes & Alcohol
The Jam ripped off The Supremes You Cant Hurry Love for Town Called Malice.

It happens all the time.
The only thing that bothers me about Led Zep's plagiarisms is all the old blues standards they called their own. Ripping off loads of blues artists who probably spent their entire careers not getting their due.

sweet_nothing 03-02-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizzie (Post 449866)
*Looses all the respect she once had for Led Zeppelin*

same here except change she to he.

GravitySlips 03-02-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 449869)
How?

How what?

The two songs sound different enough. Obviously the Zeppelin guitarist has been influenced by this song, but there's a unique enough take on it for me to give Zeppelin credit for it.

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 06:33 PM

How is it uniquer or any different? The songs themselves sure but the guitar parts could be the same song.

GravitySlips 03-02-2008 06:38 PM

because it SOUNDS different, Crowquill. What should I say? The frequencies of sound are not exactly the same, and they are sufficiently dissimilar for me to still give Jimmy Page credit for Stairway to Heaven. Maybe he used this song as some sorta template. I have no problem with that, because I enjoy Stairway to Heaven despite how massively overhyped it is.

sleepy jack 03-02-2008 10:55 PM

I honestly don't hear this supposed difference.

Zer0 03-03-2008 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword (Post 449875)
Led Zeppelin's first two albums weren't even written by them, I think.

You think? Well if they didnt write them then who did??

Besides nearly every artist rips off someone else. Spirit probably ripped that song off someone.

boo boo 03-03-2008 04:41 AM

By ripping off of course he means they asked some band to let them use a riff for a song even though it ended up being a different riff altogether.

Theres more to Stairway to Heaven than just the f*cking opening riff anyway.

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 449872)
Yeah because Led Zeppelin are only guilty of having stolen this one thing. This Zepfanboy denial is ridiculous. You can google Led Zeppelin plagiarisms and you'll find countless examples of musical theft.

And most of them are invalid and biased.

Vandyman 03-03-2008 06:23 AM

Funny, all I wanted was the name of the song. I didn't realize that it would start this big argument. But since it did, I don't see any way anyone can say this isn't a total stealing of a song. As far as Zep taking those old blues songs, I am sure the old blues original writers were happy as can be about that. Doesn't 90% go to the writer? Bye the way, thank you crowquill for the answer. I have found you musical knowledge very helpful many times already.

Zer0 03-03-2008 08:54 AM

Ok yes the two guitar lines do sound similar, but the Zeppelin one sounds better. :p:

Vandyman 03-03-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 450075)
Ok yes the two guitar lines do sound similar, but the Zeppelin one sounds better. :p:

Still a rip off

TheBig3 03-03-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 449872)
Yeah because Led Zeppelin are only guilty of having stolen this one thing. This Zepfanboy denial is ridiculous. You can google Led Zeppelin plagiarisms and you'll find countless examples of musical theft.

And yet, try as they might Zeppelin still remains one of the most popular bands in music.

I'm no fan boy, but those they stole from ought to thank them from taking them from the musical oblivion and at least installing them as a footnote to something relevent.

TheBig3 03-03-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 450002)
By ripping off of course he means they asked some band to let them use a riff for a song even though it ended up being a different riff altogether.

Theres more to Stairway to Heaven than just the f*cking opening riff anyway.



And most of them are invalid and biased.

Yeah the opening arpeggio isn't the reason the song is amazing but some people just close thier eyes tighly and hold on for dear life with the one argument they have.

If it wasn't for Zep hate, Spirit would be where exactly? Does anyone know any other song by them without googling it? Or having googled it in the past? How many Spirit albums do you own?

I was verbally accosted by the same "did you know" rhetoric at the grocery store one time. And the know it all there had to let me know everything Zep did was stolen. This argument is officially on par with the tabloid news.

Vandyman 03-03-2008 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 450115)
Yeah the opening arpeggio isn't the reason the song is amazing but some people just close thier eyes tighly and hold on for dear life with the one argument they have.

If it wasn't for Zep hate, Spirit would be where exactly? Does anyone know any other song by them without googling it? Or having googled it in the past? How many Spirit albums do you own?

I was verbally accosted by the same "did you know" rhetoric at the grocery store one time. And the know it all there had to let me know everything Zep did was stolen. This argument is officially on par with the tabloid news.

I happen to own 3 Spirit albums, although they have been packed away in box's with my other albums for many years now. It would be easy for many, many people to tell you that Spirit had a pretty big hit with "I got a line on you". Also, did you realize that Zeppelin used to open for Spirit back in the late 60's. Hmmmmmmm, think that may be where they heard the song Taurus??? I am by no means saying that Spirit is even close to as popular as Zeppelin. But the fact is, Zeppelin stole that riff, end of story, why can't you just admit they did and get on with it. Are you so into Zeppelin that it hurts you to hear anything like this about them?
Also, the lead guitarist from Spirit used to play guitar with Hendrix's first band.
Their drummer has played with Taj Mahal, Rye Cooder and April Wine
Their keyboard player was the keyboard player for Nazerath
Their Bassist was Bass for Firefall and Heart
And Jay Ferguson went on to have his own solo hit's
I would rather go see a concert with all those groups than one with Led Zeppelin, The Honeydrippers, and The Firm any day. As a matter of fact, I would take Hendrix alone over Zeppelin. I might even choose Spirit and The Partridge Family over Pages sloppy old worn out stolen licks.

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-03-2008 12:22 PM





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Vandyman 03-03-2008 12:50 PM

Song rip-offs
 
I started a post asking what song Stairway to Heaven was coppied from. This seemed to lead into a discussion on other coppied songs. Let's see how many coppied songs we can name here. Put song clips if you have them.
I'll start off with one of my favorite songs, "Buffalo Soldier" by Bob Marley being coppied from "The Banana Splitz Theme". I read someone say that Bob must have been stoned one Saturday morning while little Ziggy was watching Saturday morning TV. Sounds right to me.

YouTube - Banana Splits - The Ultimate Intro!

YouTube - Buffalo soldier

Urban Hat€monger ? 03-03-2008 12:57 PM

I've merged your two thread together because basically they're about the same subject.

Vandyman 03-03-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 450177)
I've merged your two thread together because basically they're about the same subject.

Only problem is people that have seen the first post won't respond, they will think they have seen it already, wish you hadn't done that. If you wan't to, get rid of the first post all together and just leave the second.





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sleepy jack 03-03-2008 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero1986 (Post 449997)
Besides nearly every artist rips off someone else. Spirit probably ripped that song off someone.

From who?

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 450002)
And most of them are invalid and biased.

I think the multitude of the accusations says alot, even if most of them are invalid.

The Unfan 03-03-2008 02:04 PM

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boo boo 03-03-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 450210)
I think the multitude of the accusations says alot, even if most of them are invalid.

Actually no, blues purists and indie fans alike have a very strong hatred for Zep, and they're the ones making these accusations.

Vandyman 03-03-2008 08:45 PM

I never said I hated Zep. I was really into them once apon a time ago. When I was a teenager my walls were covered with their posters. I still like many of their songs, just not all of them. Stairway to Heaven may have been the most overplayed record of my time. There used to be a commercial for WXRT in Chicago saying how they never overplayed records, at the end of the commercial they held up a pizza and said, this used to be Stairway to Heaven. After all is said and done, they still coppied that song from Spirit, the end.

sleepy jack 03-03-2008 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 450522)
Actually no, blues purists and indie fans alike have a very strong hatred for Zep, and they're the ones making these accusations.

So all of these accusations of plagiarism are completely wrong and inaccurate?

boo boo 03-03-2008 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowquill (Post 450599)
So all of these accusations of plagiarism are completely wrong and inaccurate?

I never said that was the reason.

As opposed to you saying the accusations are legit for the simple reason that they exist.


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