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TumorAttitude 05-05-2009 08:46 PM

Green Day

Strengths: Well written pop. Excellent bass arrangements. They sound great when they're trying to be the Beach Boys.

Weaknesses: Its POP. Its POP POP POP POP POP. It has absolutly no street cred. It doesn't deserve it.... Its like...black cotton candy. Its black. It looks like it would be different. But its still cotton candy. And theres that song where they try to be the Ramones....I hope its just a bad single.

The Zombies

Strengths: Wow, they're just beautiful. Lovely lovely lovely well-written music and rad melodies and gorgeous concepts and I can't get enough.

Weaknesses: Not many. I dislike when he goes in falsetto (like in "Tell Her No") and I dislike all the covers of "Time of the Season". They make me sad.

The Mars Volta

Strengths: This genre (prog rock) peaked in the 70s, but I still think this band is awesome. Deep lyrical concepts, well-written, good melodies, and the guitar on some songs absolutly blows me away.

Weaknesses: 1/3 songs are good lyrically. 2/3 kinda seem like they're just words put together to sound smart. And now they all have their heads up their a**es.

boo boo 05-05-2009 09:12 PM

Since when does being pop mean a lack of artistic credibility?

I'm not saying that Green Day has any, I'm just sayin'.

Zarko 05-05-2009 09:22 PM

Nick Cave
Strengths - Great variety over his career in his respective bands. Rarely sounds like he is chucking out an album for the sake of it (Nocturama is the exemption). Very good lyricist that can cater to some absolutely dark moments and then some bright ones the next.

Weaknesses - Nocturama sucks. Harvey has left the Seeds now.

Yann Tiersen
Strengths - Great contemporary classical music blended with its fair share of classic European folk. Very good compositional work.

Weaknesses - Often borrows from one of his albums for the next soundtrack, which can lead to repetitiveness if listening to his albums without offering as much new work. Live albums are passable.

Amon Tobin
Strengths - Amazingly consistent quality discography of his career after 6 studio albums. Good integration of hip hop/trip hop/jazz/big beats sounds into his DnB base.

Weaknesses - Enough variety in his discography to cater to different moods, but often times those specific songs are all over the place. Sometimes it feels like a chore to listen to an entire album, sometimes due to it's sameness or not being in the right mood.

Dead Can Dance
Strengths - An awesome evolution of sounds and styles through their 12 year career. Almost always interesting to break out a different album. Every tour they did they made dozens of new songs just to perform especially for that tour instead of regurgitating their studio songs. Perfect contrast between the two artists vocally.

Weaknesses - Although they made new material for the tours, it was often not recorded professionally leading to some poorer quality bootlegs. One or two albums are boring. They finished with a lot of promise still left, could've released more gold.

The Church
Strengths - Some of the best Alternative Pop/Rock I have listened to. Some absolute beauties in their discography. A lot of infectious material. Kilbey is a solid vocalist.

Weaknesses - Not a big fan of their 80's stuff, a bit boring when they were still trying to break into the mainstream (Thank god they got over that dream :p:). Very rarely produce an excellent album throughout, always a song or two that simply annoy me. Kilbey is a pretentious ****

Charles Mingus
Strengths - Best jazz composer IMHO. Some crazy material ranging from bop to avant garde. As a bassist he wasn't the best, but was able to make it an integral part of the music. Intense and powerful. Even re-envisioned his own music over time to make more quality music.

Weaknesses - As with any jazz artist, a lot of meh between the gold. Poor live performer, due to his anger problems probably.

lucifer_sam 05-05-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarko (Post 653325)
The Church
Strengths - Some of the best Alternative Pop/Rock I have listened to. Some absolute beauties in their discography. A lot of infectious material. Kilbey is a solid vocalist.

Weaknesses - Not a big fan of their 80's stuff, a bit boring when they were still trying to break into the mainstream (Thank god they got over that dream :p:). Very rarely produce an excellent album throughout, always a song or two that simply annoy me. Kilbey is a pretentious ****

The Blurred Crusade and Starfish are excellent, i'm also partial to Heyday and Seance as well. i did think they changed direction after Starfish, though i'm not entirely sure it was for the better. i can just as easily get bored with Priest = Aura, Sometime Anywhere or any of their other post-1990 material.

still good to see so many Church fans on this board (and the majority of us aren't Aussies :p:)

Zarko 05-05-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 653329)
The Blurred Crusade and Starfish are excellent, i'm also partial to Heyday and Seance as well. i did think they changed direction after Starfish, though i'm not entirely sure it was for the better. i can just as easily get bored with Priest = Aura, Sometime Anywhere or any of their other post-1990 material.

still good to see so many Church fans on this board (and the majority of us aren't Aussies :p:)

Yeah, just personal tastes... I really can't understand how everyone loves Starfish.

Though I guess I did grow up with them during the 90's... Despite their lack of popularity overseas, we can't get enough of our own down here.

lucifer_sam 05-05-2009 09:40 PM

i don't even really go for Under the Milky Way anymore, heard it way too many times. but there's so much more depth to the album: Destination, NSEW, Reptile, Antenna... i've tried finding a better Church album, listened and listened and came up with nowt.

and they do have a fair bit of support over here. touring worldwide for some twenty-odd years has got to count for something.

Antonio 05-05-2009 09:53 PM

Clutch

S: A band where all the parts are good, Tim Sult's and Dan Maines' cohesive guitar and bass, JP Gaster's explosive drumming and Neil Fallon's lyrical genius (he actually has an degree in English, which is AWESOME) as well as their idiosyncratic approach to music and general apathy to music trends

W: Some of their releases these days lack the kind of kick they had back in the 90s, especially their blues stuff. plus Neil isn't really the best singer, some of my friends can't get into them cause of the vocals.

Mastodon

S: great sound, stoner rock combined with a bit of progressive and able to produce some beautiful as well as hard hitting music. The idea of designating elements to each of their albums work, seeing as songs on there can make you feel the element

W: some of their songs can be a bit boring and uneventful. their solos can be messy sometimes as well as have some missed oppurtunities.

Between the Buried and Me

S: Technically superb, all the musicians are great, and they can be technical while not being too much. can be able to change genres at the drop of a dime and still make the song good

W: some parts of their songs are a bit cheesy, plus they sometimes rehash and overuse riffs and parts. also, Tommy's vocals can be a bit much

Red Hot Chili Peppers

S: they have some serious staying power (some people don't realize how long they've been around), made not only great funk rock, but have transcended genres and can still be accessible to today's youth

W: Anthony Keidis isnt that good of a singer, plus John Frusciante sometimes has too much influence over the band's music. plus their musc today isn't as exciting as it once was

Jimi Hendrix

S: definately an influental part of music, not just in rock. was a guitarist who was able to use his instrument as an extension of himself. he had command of many genres (rock, blues, jazz) and he could make sounds come out of a guitar that one could only dream of

W: pretty average as a singer, plus he was a bit selfish playing live

Anteater 05-05-2009 10:27 PM

King Crimson
Strengths: Incredibly innovative, having always been ahead of the curve musically over almost everyone else while retaining their signature heaviness. Robert Fripp is the best textural guitarist on the planet, and despite the many break-ups and lineup changes over the last 40 years have never sacrificed good songwriting for the sake of commercial success.

Weaknesses: The various lineup changes and break-ups, lack of stylistic consistency beyond one or two traits, some weak material in the late 80's, seeming inability to get someone above and beyond decent as a vocalist. (sorry Belew ^^)

Ozric Tentacles
Strengths: Have the uncanny gift of being able to hypnotize you as you listen to them. Their sound, combining elements of every entrancing form of psychedelia, dub, ambient and electronica known to man is inhumanely effective at locking your mind into a groove without the aid of psychoactive stimulants. They also aren't owned by some corporate shitbag label and yet have still managed to sell over a million albums in less than two decades. No annoying frontman drama either, as the Ozrics are an instrumental group.

Weaknesses: Lack of particularly noticeable/visible growth in style between releases. Once you own one or two of these guys records, you've pretty much heard it all.

someonecompletelyrandom 05-05-2009 10:34 PM

This was a great idea for a thread. I'm really enjoying reading these because it's not just an ass licking and it's not just a negitive rant. Props Urban! :)

SATCHMO 05-05-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 459128)
And the less said about T*n M**h**e the better.
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Am I the only person on this planet that liked Tin Machine !?!?!


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